26 (edited by CPT_Trans_Continental 2015-01-16 01:29 PM)

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Bought four scales from Sammy's (300lb. ones for $31.18 total) and managed to weigh the Jag front end, rear end, drivetrain, and Corvair body. It is much easier to do with a lift. Motor and trans nearly maxed them out! We are going with the lowest center of gravity build technique, since weight savings is out of the question. We might be able to save some weight by removing the radiator, since we didn't need one last race. Might need that catch can ballast though...

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27 (edited by CPT_Trans_Continental 2017-03-16 02:56 PM)

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Just when you thought the Corvair could not get slower, 11.5" discs!!! Plus we added a ton of BRITISH STEEL, known as the world's heaviest. Class D domination!!! Yeah Phil, you know you're thinking about Class D. Revolution!!!

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXRlh4ZUhnTmhlR1k
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXY0NEUC1jUzk5aVE
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXMVc3d3NmTDZEcVk

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28 (edited by CPT_Trans_Continental 2017-03-16 02:59 PM)

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Now for the go fast parts! Don't worry about the missing sheet metal, most of it was missing before I started cutting.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXX2ttbjhOcDNFS28

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXbHlEMVAyUlV4eVE

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXOU9oaTZ3QjNDMlU

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXM0lpM040ZEtwZjQ

If you want to watch Jaguar dominance, watch Mud, Sweat and Gears S1 Ep1 on BBC America.

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I like the direction you guys are going.  Keep up the good work!

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30 (edited by CPT_Trans_Continental 2017-03-16 03:00 PM)

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The problem with Corvairs is that when you start cutting on one panel, you can't stop with just one. Full floor removal as rust has had its way with the original sheet metal.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXYTM3eTdiaWdLeGc

The kid in the back with the frowny face is just for dramatic effect.

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Well the springs are in and the car sits about four inches taller than the jaguar, must be some metric conversion problem. Driveshaft is mocked up (love the smell of burning rubber from an isolated shaft), as well as the steering (is there a limit on the number of joints you can use?). Next up, brakes, do I need a PhD in hydrodynamics to figure this thing out? Engine driven hydraulic pumps, special Newtonian fluid, Whitworth fasteners, madness!

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32 (edited by CPT_Trans_Continental 2017-03-16 03:01 PM)

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https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXdkJ3QnFpM3hLWVU

Pontiac Tempest anyone?

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXVGhoNlVBMHRKckU

I know the trans should be bolted here. I just need to build an adapter plate.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXS0phRktmdmIwMXc

Looks like a gasser. More from a flatulence standpoint than a speed/coolness one.

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I like the cage/tub in the driver's seat area. I assume there was a lot of cursing, half-math and dry fitting to get there?

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CaptainCardigan wrote:

I like the cage/tub in the driver's seat area. I assume there was a lot of cursing, half-math and dry fitting to get there?

Yeah, it's going to be interesting. Since the tranny mount is asymmetrical to the driver's side, we are thinking of right hand drive for more room for the seat. The cursing comes from trying to weld to rust.

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35 (edited by CPT_Trans_Continental 2017-03-17 09:36 AM)

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CaptainCardigan wrote:

I like the cage/tub in the driver's seat area. I assume there was a lot of cursing, half-math and dry fitting to get there?

To answer another Captain's question:

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXTXJXNld6QlBrWFE

The floor was originally very rusty and not really connected to the rocker on the driver side.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXX2gtR1FRTFhmNVk

After seat position was decided (distance from wheel and control centering).

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXN0M0Yy02OGQtRTQ

Temporary mounts made from angle stock and round tube were created to confirm seat angle and position. Marks were made on the floor to represent mounting position (our seat was on a slider, so max back position was against main hoop in roll cage). Our seat position was too high and would not have passed Tech, therefore the floor must go. I used a digital angle finder to set seat angle in relation to rocker.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXdkJ3QnFpM3hLWVU

The tube (1.25" x .120") that is welded to the rocker panel (upper right corner of picture) extended across to the passenger rocker panel, because the floor was so bad, to support the front of the seat. While the two tubes that parallel the driveshaft support the sides of the seat. The seat is bolted to two pieces of 1" x 1" x .125" angle that have nuts welded in them, the tube between the mounting flanges is for the anti-submarine belt. Originally all the tubes were straight, but as the seat was lowered more and more to pass Tech and for visibility, the tubes needed to be bent to still be able to weld into good metal (you can mock it up with scrap tube and add bends at final install). The angle of the side rails is the same as the original mock-up, find something in the car to measure front to rear position and use a plumb bob from points on the roof if necessary.

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Thanks for the further information and pictures and all! We have/had basically the same problem and as a bunch of long torso drivers, we will likely have it again and I found your solution very elegant.

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Coming close to the finish line as mock up is almost done; pedals, booster (thank you 1978 Ford Mustang II) and master cylinder are in. Exhaust and shifter are left, then I can start my own version of Burning Man. Looking forward to firing her up again and start reducing the wiring. Then some final sheet metal and line running and we should be able to take her down the street.

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38 (edited by CPT_Trans_Continental 2017-03-17 09:38 AM)

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Last night had frowny face take the Corvair engine apart to liberate the #6 piston (it sits in the house next to the MHF trophy). I sorta feel bad about what we did to that motor, considering it was in pretty good shape (no ridge, not rusted together, good compression), that engine in a street car may have lasted years. Then I remember what it came out of and realize that if we had not turned it into a LeMons car, it may have not been driven ever again. Though our car ran for only 90 min, that car was ALIVE for those 90 min. Which begs the question if you could choose how to go the big racetrack in the sky, would you want to be carted off to your demise without a last weak breath, or would you want to go with a supermodel, banging gears and your heart exploding? I choose the latter, and that is what LeMons is to me. The last hurrah of a dying machine, though not designed to, who decided to race into the unknown at full throttle. I will miss the Blue Smoke Six and have thoughts of what could have been, but in the end I think we gave that engine the best Viking burial we could have.

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https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXMjJTS0VSVzk3R2M
No joke, Rose Martin was buried in her Corvair.
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Three step method for new team members:

1. Receive email noting interest in racing.
2. Reply with build thread link.
3. Crickets...

A huge shoutout to Wes for having balls that go clank.

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40 (edited by CPT_Trans_Continental 2017-03-17 09:40 AM)

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https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXdnM1TGlydlFHcTA

Bought wheels off CL. Now car is in race trim (minus theme). Once we sell the scrap, we should be able to wrap them in new rubber. Need to cut front springs to compensate for lack of British Steel frontend. Chevy wheels, Ford brakes, Jag drivetrain, maybe we should get a Toyota radiator and Honda alternator so nobody is left out. Are Madza oil coolers faster? We seem to be trapped in 1993 also. The truth is out there...

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXU1NyX3BHNWxaMWs

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41 (edited by CPT_Trans_Continental 2017-03-17 09:52 AM)

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Starting to cut the Jag wiring harness to fit in the car.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXZ0ttX3cwZl9hVnM

Engine ran in car, engine ran on floor, hopefully it will run again. If it comes to it, I am ready to fab an intake and run some carbs! Just in case we killed it, this video is in memoriam. https://youtu.be/6cr7xDdlONY

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42 (edited by CPT_Trans_Continental 2017-03-17 10:16 AM)

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The car looks like a Transformer threw up in it.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXOENvRnZnYU8tOW8

This is AFTER we removed about half the harness (luxury circuits).

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43 (edited by CPT_Trans_Continental 2017-03-17 07:59 PM)

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Jagvair LIVES! Just need to finish welding and theme and brakes and shakedown and make sure the thing doesn't go into limp mode or something else weird.

https://youtu.be/XehcKENUWZA

I would like to call that a look of relief, but now the REAL work begins.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXNHluRUJwQkZlSFE

For those who think you can't make a Corvair uglier, behold, the JAGVAIR!

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXSS0tOG9yN2V0R28

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Wicked cool!

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Slow clap.... Very nice

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Cat in a hot tin box, very cool!

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We need more cars like this in LeMons.

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Hearing the engine run in the car after miles of Lucas wiring were cut from the harness was a huge relief.

49 (edited by CPT_Trans_Continental 2017-03-17 11:56 AM)

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Last night got the team together to pull the suspension and drivetrain for (hopefully) the last time. It came right out with some minor prying. Wife went OOT and I have an entire weekend of fab and welding ahead of me. Next week parts go back in and test drive down the street.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXaUJIYmtVZEdfQ2s

Cooling system mock up, should keep the ZF cool.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXR0hvZ3JEZ3hLemM

Brakes done, test drive next.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXT2dCb3VwVTVIZms

Floor reconstruction done, panels next.

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50 (edited by CPT_Trans_Continental 2017-03-17 11:57 AM)

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Less than 60 days till PNW. Car still has not been driven, but last weekend the drivetrain went back in and the brakes were inspected. Result: calipers good, but brake pads and rotors are junk. New parts ordered and maybe the second car's parts can be used as backups. Driver's spindle bad and all bearings need to be replaced. Harness back in this week and test drive this weekend (hopefully).

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXWGF1Tm5mSjhfcVU

Firewall done.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXMjl6RWFwTUJlUkE

Pedals in and floor started.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0Bwd77mMKZxPXSmlBRlZUN3FzYlE

Almost looks like a car again.

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