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Topic: $500 Lamborghini?

The body styling of Chrysler's LH platform is a direct descendant of the Lamborghini Portofino.

http://jalopnik.com/that-time-lamborghi … 1539006273

Hey, I'm trying to feel better about the thing in my garage!

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

"Bonus points for anyone who remembers the Eagle Vision".
Do you lose points for having one?

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

(the setting is an old time hardware store fastener section)

A teammate and I are each standing in front of a pile of 3/8-16 bolts, running a nut down the threads checking for burrs and smashed thread form.  I have recently lost an argument about the merits of Grade 8 hardware in an exhaust flange application.  Not willing to give up the fight, I turn to the Grade 8 drawers and pull out a 3/8-16 x 3.5" bolt.


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Teammate (without looking up): Don't ever say that to me again.

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

Wikipedia in reference to the Eagle Vision wrote:

The appearance, still based on the cab forward exterior design of the 1987 Lamborghini Portofino concept, with its aerodynamic shape, made for little wind noise inside this large car. The engineering and sleek styling gives the Vision a low drag coefficient (0.31), on par with the Porsche 997.

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

yukadas wrote:

Me: Do you know what feels really good on these nuts?
Teammate (without looking up): Don't ever say that to me again.

You should review his team membership for not appreciating a great 8th grade line like this smile

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http://i.imgur.com/DDFnZdj.jpg

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

Longitudinal front wheel drive for the win!

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

Maverick74 wrote:

Longitudinal front wheel drive for the win!

I keep telling my teammates that the driveline of this car was a Renault design with an Audi transmission copied and improved upon by Chrysler's engineering staff.  I'm glad someone else sees the full potential of this amazing platform!

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

yukadas wrote:
Maverick74 wrote:

Longitudinal front wheel drive for the win!

...with an Audi transmission copied and improved upon by Chrysler's engineering staff.

Are you sure those were the right words?

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

Renault design with an Audi transmission copied and improved upon by Chrysler's engineering staff.

That's almost as good as if  Mercedes added their tech to Chrysler then sold the conflagration to Fiat ....  wink

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OnkelUdo wrote:
yukadas wrote:
Maverick74 wrote:

Longitudinal front wheel drive for the win!

...with an Audi transmission copied and improved upon by Chrysler's engineering staff.

Are you sure those were the right words?


I found this on The Wiki and it's what I'm basing my whole opinion on:

Wikipedia wrote:

The LH platform was based on the American Motors-developed and Renault-derived Eagle Premier. According to Bob Lutz, "[t]he Premier had an excellent chassis and drove so damned well that it served as a benchmark for the LH ... the spiritual father, the genetic antecedent of the LH is the Premier." Like the Premier, the LH-cars featured a longitudinally-mounted engine with a front-wheel drive drivetrain, unusual in most American front-wheel drive cars, but a hallmark of Renault's designs. This arrangement meant that the design team had to use a chain to connect the automatic transmission with the front differential, a design reminiscent of the original Oldsmobile Toronado though subject to greater wear and noise.

I don't know how the rest of you read that, by I see "Made it more like a Toronado" and I don't see how anyone could deny the level of pure awesome.

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

yukadas wrote:
OnkelUdo wrote:
yukadas wrote:

...with an Audi transmission copied and improved upon by Chrysler's engineering staff.

Are you sure those were the right words?


I found this on The Wiki and it's what I'm basing my whole opinion on:

Wikipedia wrote:

The LH platform was based on the American Motors-developed and Renault-derived Eagle Premier. According to Bob Lutz, "[t]he Premier had an excellent chassis and drove so damned well that it served as a benchmark for the LH ... the spiritual father, the genetic antecedent of the LH is the Premier." Like the Premier, the LH-cars featured a longitudinally-mounted engine with a front-wheel drive drivetrain, unusual in most American front-wheel drive cars, but a hallmark of Renault's designs. This arrangement meant that the design team had to use a chain to connect the automatic transmission with the front differential, a design reminiscent of the original Oldsmobile Toronado though subject to greater wear and noise.

I don't know how the rest of you read that, by I see "Made it more like a Toronado" and I don't see how anyone could deny the level of pure awesome.

Does it come as a surprise that there is a Toronado sitting in a teammates driveway?

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cabinboy wrote:

Does it come as a surprise that there is a Toronado sitting in a teammates driveway?


Of course it's sitting in the driveway...the damn thing won't fit in any reasonably sized garage.

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

that's not even remotely close to the worst thing I've ever said in public, or to another racecar friend

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

cabinboy wrote:

"Bonus points for anyone who remembers the Eagle Vision".
Do you lose points for having one?

This is still one of my favorite things I've ever read on this forum.

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

Maverick74 wrote:

Longitudinal front wheel drive for the win!

Is the trans under the engine like an El Dorado or behind the engine like a Legend?

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

Behind.  It looks like a normal RWD bell housing, but from there it gets dumb.  The only thing that keeps it from being completely horrible is Chrysler engineering.

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18 Reply by yukadas (edited by yukadas 2016-07-19 08:57 AM)

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

The best quote from last week.

The Eagle Vision came down off the jack stands for the first time in longer than I can remember.

Me: I think something is broke in the back.  It's sitting awfully high.
Teammate: I think you're wrong.
Me: You don't think it's sitting too high?
Teammate: I don't think it's broke.
Me: Good thing we have the sporty member of the LH family.


I would like to apologize to anyone who is behind us when the green flag flies on Saturday.

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http://i.imgur.com/bJyvjW1.jpg

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

Oh, man. I need to get a picture of that thing the first time it takes a corner so I can capture how ridiculously it's going to lean.

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

therood wrote:

Oh, man. I need to get a picture of that thing the first time it takes a corner so I can capture how ridiculously it's going to lean.

You think it will survive more than one turn?

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cabinboy wrote:
therood wrote:

Oh, man. I need to get a picture of that thing the first time it takes a corner so I can capture how ridiculously it's going to lean.

You think it will survive more than one turn?

Was wondering if anybody would pick up on that wording.  You guys aren't doing the Test Day, are you?

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therood wrote:

You guys aren't doing the Test Day, are you?

You're so funny......

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Re: $500 Lamborghini?

therood wrote:
cabinboy wrote:
therood wrote:

Oh, man. I need to get a picture of that thing the first time it takes a corner so I can capture how ridiculously it's going to lean.

You think it will survive more than one turn?

Was wondering if anybody would pick up on that wording.  You guys aren't doing the Test Day, are you?

Actually, if we were smart we would run the test day, blow it up and go home and avoid the heatstroke.

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therood wrote:

You guys aren't doing the Test Day, are you?

Shall I tell you our theory about there being a finite number of laps contained inside anything from the Chrysler LH platform?

No, we will not be using them BOTH on Friday.

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