Topic: IOE contender? Want to help?

I have a line on a car that will be an IOE contender for sure. Might even pick it up tomorrow.(4th of July - perfect!) It is a car the judges have been hoping to see. It's American. It will be kinda big. It will be heavy. It will handle like a pig. It will be a challenge to keep it running for a weekend. BUT, if it keeps running, it will be a contender for the best prize. No doubt.
My current team will have NO interest in messing with this thing. I do. A lot. My mechanical skills are...lacking. But my enthusiasm is off the charts. I'm reliable. My mom says I'm cool. I'm a good person. I'm smart enough, I'm good enough and people like me. And I love Lemons. Think about it all the time. Our "reliable, easy car" broke after 11 hours at Buttonwillow and I wanted to cry. Felt like a little kid having to leave Disneyland just as the Electric Light Parade was starting.
Anyway, I'm looking for other West Coast Lemons (or people interested in IOE that want to come run a West Coast race) to get involved. Especially people that "get" Lemons and think they could work with the guy described above. Mechanical skill, experience building Lemons are also pretty key, since I lack that badly. I'm still pretty new to this myself (3 races so far) but I think this would be the wrong project for a total rookie to be involved in. I'm more than willing to hand the project over to somebody more adept at this than me. I would just be happy to be part of it. I would do my part monetarily, for sure. And I don't mind working hard. I also don't mind doing the organizing and leading the project, if need be. I'm a pretty agreeable cat.
I'm in SLO, but I'd be happy working on this car anywhere in California. One of my Lemons friends is based in Winters and I know he would have an interest in being part of this, but he doesn't have a shop.
I know this is long winded but I just wanted to give you an idea of who you would be working with. If you are interested, contact me. I think this would be challenge. And it would be fun. And it would be a chance to win that IOE you have been craving. Thanks for your time.

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I'd be willing to lend moral support and any information I have on big American ill handling cars, but that's about all I can offer

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Don't believe anyone who says they will help.

They may want to.

And they mean well.

But few, if any, can actually step up.

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Spank wrote:

Don't believe anyone who says they will help.

They may want to.

And they mean well.

But few, if any, can actually step up.

Sadly true, but he may get lucky smile

I'm entirely on the wrong coast but I'm well versed in bad ideas so if you need moral support, technical advice or whatever just give a shout.

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I wish I lived closer to help you on the ChryCo LH you've picked out (correct me if I'm wrong).  I've long admired those cars and think they'd be a fantastic lemons car, especially with a Supafly theme.  I'd do it in a heartbeat, except for the 1000 mile drive.

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If this is an LH car, I could be interested.  I know that I could make that car work.  It is not nearly as terrible as people think...

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Nope. Not an LH car. I would enjoy that as well. But, nope, what I have is older. And much worse. And I actually own it now, as of the 4th of July. I'm on the fence between, "oh, I have made a terrible mistake" and "this would be so awesome to make work." Because it shouldn't work. For a lot of reasons. Miles of vacuum hoses. American luxury/malaise at it's finest. A car that looks to have had some hard miles put on it. One of my teammates think it should be converted to diesel. It does run. I drove it home. Fur covered steering wheel and all. Dice on the mirror. And a  car freshener tree (Find one in every car. You'll see.)
BUT, it is a car the judges (or at least one judge) wanted to see. Even DIRECTLY telling me I should find one instead of my safe little CRX (which blew a head gasket at Buttonwillow after four races, by the way.) This new car has an easy theme, as well.
I'm a big fan of the I.O.E. and C Class part of Lemons and want to be part of it. We have been stuck in the lower reaches of B with our stock, slowish CRX and while I've been enjoying the heck out of it, I'm called by the glorious trumpets of I.O.E. and C-class. I think those are trumpets....
So, I got this car.
I'm not mechanically geared at all. I wish I was. My mom has rebuilt the engine in our old Mustang. My sister rebuilt the front end. Sadly, it all skipped me. BUT, I work hard and take directions well. I'm not looking for help as much as I'm looking for people that like the whole pursuit of I.O.E., want another challenge, want to run a car that hasn't run a Lemons race yet (I think) to form a second team, side project, conglomerate of idiocy. I would be willing to give this car to someone else, as long as I could be on the team. I'm in for dollar investment. I'm in for working hard to get this car ready to finish a race. I'm sure it would have an extremely good shot at an I.O.E. if it can finish. As I mentioned in my earlier email, you don't have to be in my location (SLO) to do this. I wouldn't mind if this car ended up in Northern or Southern Cal. You could COUNT on me to come help get this car ready. What I lack in knowledge, I make up for in enthusiasm.
I know I can't get my current team interested in this. My main team has our eyes on a horrible/awesome British project as well as getting the Repo Man CRX back on the road. But getting this car out there is something I'd like to be a part of.
I'd love to work with some of you that have been doing this for a while. I'd love to see this car making laps. I've got the car. It runs. It was cheap. I feel it has potential to be something cool.
Think about it. I promise to feed it and clean up after it every night.
Thanks for reading all this.

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miles of vacuum lines? American luxury/malaise at it's finest?

Caddy V-8-4-6?

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Caddy Cim-moron?

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I'm assuming its a 1979-84 FWD Riviera/Toronado/Biarritz, the only question I really have is which motor is in it? Best bet, I think, would be a 3.8 Buick.

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Chrysler Cordoba?

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Lincoln Mark V

14 (edited by Parkwod60 2012-07-07 08:12 PM)

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http://www.dallasdrivers.org/gallery/d/329-2/Psychosteer.jpg

How long do I have to wait to pass a car in the process of "psychosteering"?

(I had been remembering this shot for a while, any time the big GM front drivers were mentioned. Today I realized I still had the December 1999 "Car & Driver" issue it was in. Once I had the actual caption finding the photo was easy)

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Psychosteer! Whoever pyschosteered the Maxima into the infield near the pits at B-willow last weekend, thanks for the laugh. Saw it coming out of the bend with the (powerful FWD) front wheels in exactly that position. Disappeared into a giant cloud of dust...

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16 (edited by EyeMWing 2012-07-08 03:41 PM)

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Wendell34 wrote:

I'm on the fence between, "oh, I have made a terrible mistake" and "this would be so awesome to make work."

Wait until you get to "Did I really buy a [insert your raging pile of shit here]!?" stage of lemon ownership. It's almost as fun as the later "What have I done with my life? It's 140 degrees in this garage and I'm covered in god knows how many different cancer-causing substances, and I'm sweating so hard it's actually running off onto the floor. And this is apparently what I do for FUN. I have to work tomorrow." stage.

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Parkwod60 wrote:

I'm assuming its a 1979-84 FWD Riviera/Toronado/Biarritz, the only question I really have is which motor is in it? Best bet, I think, would be a 3.8 Buick.

We have a winner!
1984 Biarritz. HT4100. Runs. Owned by a nearly blind person that used the front of the car to feel his way around. A surprising number of the superfluous gadgets work. It is beat up. Here is the proud vehicle;

http://smu.gs/On6Y9w

I've been driving it back and forth to work for the last week. Drives like an 84 Cadillac. Strange how I feel pretty badass driving a horrible Cadillac. Must be my Bakersfield roots showing through.
Got it for $300. If you look up old threads on the Biarritz, you will see it is a car that the powers that be have wanted to see for a long time. You will also notice that Phil has said there is very little that could ever be done to one of these to take it out of a solid C-Class car. That sounds like a challenge! I've got the car. I've got the desire. I will make the time and find some cash. I just need a team that would want to try to make this happen. Car can relocate anywhere. I'd be willing to give it to someone else if I could just be part of it. I'd love to work with people that get the "making a horrible car last, pursuit of I.O.E." part of Lemons. You guys inspire me.

I look at it like this, we just need to get it solid enough to make a round trip drive to Vegas. 7 hours there on Saturday, 7 hours back on Sunday. Possible I.O.E. glory. Seems totally easy, right?

I think it can handle a little of this;
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/434649

We just need to keep it from doing this;
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/434651

And, if you act now, just think of the suits you could wear during B.S. inspections...

I know there has to be a way to make this work. Let's talk.

Neal

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Call me 925-382-1058

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19 (edited by Parkwod60 2012-07-13 07:18 AM)

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For some reason my neighborhood in Van Nuys is lousy with these things. I know of 2 nice ones, and 1 low mileage non-running one within walking distance.

the HT4100? Best I can say about that is at least you got the car with the best weight distribution. Next to the Oldsmobile Diesel it's got to be the second worst choice for lemons racing. Cast iron heads with an aluminum block? That worked so well on the Vega I can see why it would be used for the top of their line cars. At least its got proper sleeves in the bores. Bring a back up motor. I think the 4.5 and later 4.9 motors swap right in.  Also a 3.8 Buick ought to bolt up too.

I really look forward to seeing this thing run and once my car is running again, maybe I'll make the drive up to your neighborhood and lend a hand.

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fabtoys wrote:

Call me 925-382-1058

That's cheating.

Now that we've got that out of the way, if Chris says to call him, then call him.  It will be worth your drive.  And the car will probably last the entire race.

bs

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Thx bshorey

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22 (edited by fleming95 2012-07-13 02:10 PM)

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bshorey wrote:
fabtoys wrote:

Call me 925-382-1058


Now that we've got that out of the way, if Chris says to call him, then call him.  It will be worth your drive.  And the car will probably last the entire race.

bs

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