Topic: Finally, more progress

Big work day today, earlier in the week I had stripped the floors off the donor VW chassis in preparation for today. So we started with a bare VW chassis and an extreme desire to create weirdness.

http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/images/barevwchassis.JPG

We started by cutting the front of the VW chassis off as we were only interested in the rear suspension and center tunnel.

http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/images/preppingvw.JPG

Next we just placed the VW on top of the Wartburg frame to get an idea of where we needed everything. Part of the overall design calls for extending the wheelbase. We already got 2 inched up front with the 944 a-arms, we wanted another 4 inches in the rear so the VW frame was placed locating the wheel centerline 4 inches back from the Wartburg wheel locations

http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/images/sizingitup.JPG

The grinding wheel got quite a workout as we started trimming the frame back to where we needed it. This is one of my many "do as I say, not as I do" moments. Please ignore my total disregard for safety.

http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/images/sparky.JPG

In the end our poor Wartburg frame looked like this. It was a bit painful and scary to hack it up, but the ends should justify the means.

http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/images/cutframe.JPG

The chassis was dry fit in the frame and many measurements taken. Lots of fine tuning with the grinder to get everything nice and snug, but finally we got it where we liked it.

http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/images/testfit.JPG

Finally we let the metal burn and the sparks fly and we put it all together. I still have some finish welding to do and reinforcement but it's again at a place where I can work on it solo and prepare it for the next all out team effort. An added note the rear disks are mocked up in the back. 944 brakes really are just a bolt on affair for a VW bug, sweet.

http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/images/Chassisdone.JPG

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Re: Finally, more progress

Excellent! I can see we'll need to come up with a new trophy for FrankenLemons like this one.

Re: Finally, more progress

MurileeMartin wrote:

Excellent! I can see we'll need to come up with a new trophy for FrankenLemons like this one.

You ain't seen nothing yet.  We still haven't completely ruled out the "Wheel of Engine"  Which the honorable judges will spin to see which engine we install at the last minute for your amusement wink

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OTTER: "I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
BLUTO: "We're just the guys to do it."

Re: Finally, more progress

JThw8 wrote:
MurileeMartin wrote:

Excellent! I can see we'll need to come up with a new trophy for FrankenLemons like this one.

You ain't seen nothing yet.  We still haven't completely ruled out the "Wheel of Engine"  Which the honorable judges will spin to see which engine we install at the last minute for your amusement wink

This really separates the men from the boys.

Re: Finally, more progress

Nick_LeMonsHQ wrote:
JThw8 wrote:
MurileeMartin wrote:

Excellent! I can see we'll need to come up with a new trophy for FrankenLemons like this one.

You ain't seen nothing yet.  We still haven't completely ruled out the "Wheel of Engine"  Which the honorable judges will spin to see which engine we install at the last minute for your amusement wink

This really separates the men from the boys.

It will mostly be a cost factor to round up adapters and motors.  But if I can get a few different ones cheap enough we'll spin the wheel and install the chosen motor. 

On that note if anyone knows where I can get a good running 2TC/3TC toyota cheap let me know, I snagged that adapter for $50

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OTTER: "I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
BLUTO: "We're just the guys to do it."

Re: Finally, more progress

And so my decent into madness begins.....

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OTTER: "I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
BLUTO: "We're just the guys to do it."

Re: Finally, more progress

JThw8 wrote:

And so my decent into madness begins.....

Begins?

Pat Mulry, TARP Racing #67

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Re: Finally, more progress

Mulry wrote:
JThw8 wrote:

And so my decent into madness begins.....

Begins?

Worsens?

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OTTER: "I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
BLUTO: "We're just the guys to do it."

Re: Finally, more progress

JThw8 wrote:
Nick_LeMonsHQ wrote:
JThw8 wrote:

You ain't seen nothing yet.  We still haven't completely ruled out the "Wheel of Engine"  Which the honorable judges will spin to see which engine we install at the last minute for your amusement wink

This really separates the men from the boys.

It will mostly be a cost factor to round up adapters and motors.  But if I can get a few different ones cheap enough we'll spin the wheel and install the chosen motor. 

On that note if anyone knows where I can get a good running 2TC/3TC toyota cheap let me know, I snagged that adapter for $50

I might be able to round up a 4KC, which I think has the same bellhousing pattern? You just have to drive the Wartburg to CA to pick it up.

10 (edited by JThw8 2010-01-11 06:26 PM)

Re: Finally, more progress

Nick_LeMonsHQ wrote:

I might be able to round up a 4KC, which I think has the same bellhousing pattern? You just have to drive the Wartburg to CA to pick it up.

I'm a Toyota idiot so please tell me what the 4KC came in and if you can verify the bell housing pattern is really the same.  Always on the lookout for other donor supplies (especially knowing what to go search for at the nearest junkyard if we blow motor A at Lemons)  smile

**edit** wow...holy crap, I just looked up that motor, what an anemic little box.  Not much more power than the 3 cyl that came out of the wartburg smile

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OTTER: "I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
BLUTO: "We're just the guys to do it."

Re: Finally, more progress

ITS ON WHEELS!!!

Major milestone today.  Too worn out for proper details so just some pics for now.
http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/suspension/onwheels1.JPG
http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/suspension/strutbox1.JPG

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OTTER: "I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
BLUTO: "We're just the guys to do it."

Re: Finally, more progress

Back to the other work.

Ok, here we go again, I know this is what alot of my GRM friends have been waiting to see.  As the now defunct pontiac once said "Wider is better"  That can only mean one thing....its flare time.

Started by prepping the fender.  The old paint on this thing is very reactive to the resin, even with mold release applied so I've just taken to covering all the parts with tape to ensure a simpler release.
http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/glass/prepped.JPG

Next I laid out the glass dry, I find it helps to work in smaller pieces rather than try to wet out one large sheet.
http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/glass/dry.JPG

And then I wetted it all out.
http://wartburg.misfittoysracing.com/glass/wettedout.JPG

Sorry for the tease but that's all for now, need to let this "blank" cure up then I can start the flare design.
The astute among us may have noticed that I glassed over a portion of the wheel opening yet neglected to glass the metal in front of the wheel opening.  That's what happens when you add 12 inches to your wheelbase smile

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OTTER: "I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
BLUTO: "We're just the guys to do it."

Re: Finally, more progress

haha, holy FCUK.  More proof this thing went to the right nutjobs.

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Re: Finally, more progress

Thats for sure.

Infinity Q45 #47 @ Gator-a-Rama 09 & #147 @ Nelson Ledges 09
Datsun 510 #102 @ High Plains Raceway 10 & #102 @ Mid-America Motorplex 10
Datsun 280Z #55 @ Autobahn 10

Re: Finally, more progress

Is that seran wrap as mold release?

Sons of STIG
Judge Jonny, "So, what's the next formerly thought to be immune from winning that will steal the nickels?An MR2? A Fierro (ha ha ha)? A Datsun/Nissan Z? A Camaro?"

Re: Finally, more progress

Riktor wrote:

Is that seran wrap as mold release?

Packing tape. It works.  Whatever this car was painted with at one time is highly reactive to resin, even with a good coat of wax and mold release the paint bubbles up, in other words its utter crap paint.  So Im just taping up everything.

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OTTER: "I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
BLUTO: "We're just the guys to do it."

Re: Finally, more progress

A weak point of the VW setup is the engine and trans hang of a set of suspension forks which must bear all the weight of the setup. Under hard use these can flex and will cause transmission and CV joint problems. The accepted fix for this is known as a Kafer bar (from the Kafer cup racing in germany) It ties together the shock towers and then ties the frame forks to that to prevent flex. A cheap one is $150, a good one is about double. None of that was in our budget so $15 at the hardware store, a little cutting, welding and head scratching and our budget version of a kafer bar. The top bolts can be used to adjust preload on the frame forks. All hardware is grade 10 so it should hold up.

http://d12473838.serv160.ixwebhosting.com/images/kaferbar.jpg

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OTTER: "I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
BLUTO: "We're just the guys to do it."

Re: Finally, more progress

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East German pride!

Re: Finally, more progress

lizy11 wrote:

Real men of Genius wink

FTFY

Here's to you, Mr. Fetch Me a Bigger Hammer Guy. One way or another, you'll always make it fit.

-=Tom

-=HFC Tom

Re: Finally, more progress

Zombies!!!!

Yee-Haw 2010 "Most Heroic Fix" & "I Got Screwed" -2 trophies for 1 lap, but I took checkered on my lap.
Gator-O-Rama 2012 "Organizers Choice" -2 laps 1 trophy, but i still finished ahead of an E30
Yee-Haw 2013 No trophy -26 laps, I think I see a pattern here
Gator-O-Rama 2014 "Waiting for the Last Minute Call from the Governor Award" -who's counting? John

Re: Finally, more progress

Yep, looks like a zombie post smile  Sorry if anyone got their hopes up.  Wartburg 2.0 has not started yet.

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OTTER: "I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
BLUTO: "We're just the guys to do it."