Topic: Queensland Australia Lemons Über Gallery is up

http://www.murileemartin.com/UG/LAUSQ16/100-QueenslandUG.jpg

No Leyland P76s yet, but still some interesting stuff going on at the Lemons Down Under events.

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Those are some cool cars! Different cage rules over there...down there? Looked like door bars optional. Maybe one with just a 4pt cage?

Just curious.

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http://24hoursoflemons.com.au

http://24hoursoflemons.com.au/the-rules-and-regs/

3.E ROLLCAGE REGULATIONS

OK , lets make this more simple for the simple. GO GET A PROFESSINAL CAGE MAKER TO MAKE YOUR CAGE!! GET A CERTIFICATE OF PRODUCTION….the time you spend trying to save a dollars doing it yourself is pointless.

The roll cages at a minimum need to be a 6 point CAMS or AASA, Feel free to beef the sucker up the world rally specs…hell I will give you laps for that!

They can be bolt in or weld in as long as they are to the spec mentioned above.

If you have any trouble with this, go get some professional advice !!

Roll bar and Structure. Professionally made full roll cage required. A poorly built, improperly mounted, or badly engineered roll cage will keep you from driving: Don’t show up with crap!.  At minimum, cage must include: Full front and rear hoop, appropriately braced to each other along the roofline (halo type and side/down bar type are also acceptable); two driver-side door bars, or side intrusion. appropriate main-hoop backstays with no bends, located as close to 45 degrees from horizontal as practical; one main-hoop diagonal; appropriate spreader plates and gussets; complete 360-degree welds at all joints, including all car-to-cage joints. Each major loadbearing member must be formed from a single, continuous tube. Shoulder-harness bars are necessary for proper shoulder-harness mounting in nearly all applications (the harness-to-bar attachment point must be between zero and 15 degrees lower than the harness’s seat-entry point). Dash bars are very strongly encouraged. On all sides, all drivers’ helmeted heads must be at least two inches inside the area enclosed by the cage.  For simple illustrations, Minimum tubing size for cars weighing under 1136kg as raced is 1.50″ x .120″ or 1.75″ x .095″. Properly bent, racecar-grade and -quality tubing is mandatory: no stretched or crushed bends allowed..  All spreader plates must be mild steel, at least 24 square inches

All roll cage tubing must be padded with high-density roll bar padding wherever a driver may contact the tube–head, knees, elbows, Roll cage Attachment to Vehicle.  All attachment points on the vehicle must be selected and reinforced as necessary so that, in an accident, the cage will not punch through, tear, or grossly distort the attachment point. Contour-following spreader plates; backing panels; gussets; and/or other reinforcing elements are generally required to meet this goal. Cages mounted to rusty, thin, under-supported, or otherwise stupid attachment points will flunk tech immediately

The pictures below explain……this is your minimum requirement !! take a good look!. Secure and structurally rigid positions on every 6 points!!

http://24hoursoflemons.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/cage-1-300x225.jpg
http://24hoursoflemons.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/cage-2-300x225.jpg

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Yeah, looks like they allow open-face helmets as well.

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Thanks heaps for the clarification. Very cool. I'd love to vacation and do arrive and drive there. Looks like a lot of fun!

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Judge Phil wrote:

Yeah, looks like they allow open-face helmets as well.

To be honest the requirement of an closed face helmet for Lemons in not universal.
Some racing groups on the USA do allow an open face helmet as long as the car is an enclosed car and not a convertible.

I remember back in the late 80's a driver that I crewed for who raced in the SCCA Trans Am series used an open faced helmet.
He wore full coverage goggles over his eyes but the helmet was an "old school" style open face.

Other then my first helmet that I bought to use for "auto crossing" every helmet I've had since has been an enclosed style.

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Times change and equipment requirements evolve...

First year Lemons safety equipment/cages

http://www.murileemartin.com/LSF06/LSF06-48.jpg

http://www.murileemartin.com/LSF06/LSF06-49.jpg

http://www.murileemartin.com/UG/LSFS07/LSFS07-UG-03.jpg

1997 Open face helmets
http://www.murileemartin.com/LA07/LA07-UG-212.jpg

Lemons cage tube bending circa 1997

http://www.murileemartin.com/UG/LSFS07/LSFS07-UG-55.jpg

Check out the kinky hoop.

http://www.murileemartin.com/UG/LSFS07/LSFS07-UG-68.jpg

This one is right up there with the nitrile glove gas cap:

http://www.murileemartin.com/UG/LMI07/LFR07-UG-105.jpg

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Spank wrote:

Times change and equipment requirements evolve...

Lemons cage tube bending circa 1997

Hmm, do you mean 2007? Lemons first race was Altamont, 2006, I thought.

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You're right.
But in my defense i did say "circa".  And what's a decade here or there when you're among friends?

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great pictures but what is the conversion of $500 US into Australian money $5,500 - some VERY nice looking cars that Ford Taxi looks like it rolled off the line and onto the track.

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icecoldkidd wrote:

great pictures but what is the conversion of $500 US into Australian money $5,500 - some VERY nice looking cars that Ford Taxi looks like it rolled off the line and onto the track.

They have a limit of $999 Australian.

Sorry For Party Racing! - 1985 Pontiac Firebird - Car #35

A race car exists only in two states: broken or in the process of becoming that way.

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About $700 American.

25X Loser - Delinquent Racing - '86 Rust-Tite Merkur - 9 years (when do I get to stop?).

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Just stumbled across this, we are gearing up for our 3rd Lemons race down here in OZ. Ther have been some questionable cars, no doubt, But my favorite story was the guys with the silver taxi (im pretty sure it was them).

They lunched the gearbox on day one, went to the local paper and bought a whole donor car  that night. Dropped the box out of it, put it into the race car and finished the Sunday race. Capped it off by strapping the gearbox back into the donor car, and selling the newly purchased car to one of the judges who then proceeded to drive it about 2500 km home.

Good times.

We are going racing at the end of the month again with our little Peugeot 306 (that has not missed a beat so far!) 2 races and over 2800 km done.

Rusty