1 (edited by drKorf 2016-04-02 07:45 PM)

Topic: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

Judge Phil wrote:

If I had my way, everyone would be running nothing but Douglas Xtra Tracs.

And so was born the D-Spec Challenge...

Who? You, the Lemons racer that thumbs their nose at the automotive establishment. Fuck those manufacturers trying to get us to buy their ever improving products. We're buying our tires at Walmart.

What? Racing on Douglas Xtra Trac II tires, that's what. Or if you've got something equivalent, that's okay too. See extended rules below.

When? May 21-22, 2016 Vodden the Hell Are We Doing?

Where? Thunderhill, duh.

How? Respond in this forum if you want to join. We'll have stickers and trophies and shit.

Why? Because if your team name isn't Cerveza, you're probably not going to win anyway. Embrace mediocrity and enjoy life. You'll be happier that way. Also, when you beat some team swapping out corded RE-71Rs, you can give them that looooook.

Extended Rules

Tire equivalence rule: Douglas Xtra Trac II tires have a UTQG of 420, 45,000 mile warranty, and retail for $43.50 in 185/65/14. As long as your tire has similar properties, it's fine. Can you run Westlake RP18? Hell yes. Can you use Vitour Formula X, which are 400 treadwear and $10 more expensive? Well, if it's got a name as awesome as Formula X, then sure. Can you race on a brand new set of Hankook Optimo H727s from your rental car that coincidentally fit your racecar? No comment. Can you race on donuts spares? Unfortunately no. We wanted to, but Lemons HQ says their insurance won't allow it. A list of equivalent tires includes: Cooper CS3, Falken 828, General Altimax RT, GT Champiro VP1, Hankook Optimo H724/727, Nankang XR611, Nexen CP672, Ohtsu FP0612/FP7000, Primewell PS830/850, Veento G-2, Vitour Formula X/Galaxy R1, and Westlake RP18.

Cheap ass tire rule: If you happen to have some old Summer/sport tires lying around, you can mix them in if (a) the tire is no longer manufactured and (b) you're in the B or C class. B class cars can use 1 'sport' tire and C class can use 2.

Appearance rule: Paint your sidewalls white so you know who else is racing in class (and who has no class). This is an optional rule because Hertz doesn't want white tires, I mean no comment.

Donation rule: You must make a donation to the charity of at least $5. Doing so will get you a rad D-Spec sticker (see below) and put you on the official D-Spec Challenge list.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/733402/dspeclogo.jpg

Race: 2012 Vodden; 2013 Pointless, EMP, Vodden, Freeze; 2014 Vodden, Freeze; 2015 Vodden, Loudon, Freeze; 2016 Pointless, Discomfort, Vodden, Sweat; 2017 Turrible
Staff: 2017 Pointless, Vodden, Freeze
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Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

Do they come in a 12" size?

Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

May I suggest Nankang Noblesports.  Their claim to fame is "designed in Taiwan".

Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

The dirt racer special, prime well PS830/850, 460 tread, $41 out the door for 185/60/14s

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I highly recommend the Douglas Performance GT-H we ran on the Fuego. It says performance in the name.

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Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

http://www.walmart.com/browse/auto-tire … =price_low

Here's the full list.

It's arranged by price so you'll have to hunt a bit.

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Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

I fully support this idea.

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I took note yesterday that the 1986 Hyundai I picked up a week or so ago already has Douglas M&S tires on it.

Do I get to start with bonus laps if they are pre 2000 yr manufacture date?

Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

Spank wrote:

I took note yesterday that the 1986 Hyundai I picked up a week or so ago already has Douglas M&S tires on it.

Do I get to start with bonus laps if they are pre 2000 yr manufacture date?

Yeah, sure. 1 free mile per year. So 15 years on the 5 mile track nets you 3 laps.

Race: 2012 Vodden; 2013 Pointless, EMP, Vodden, Freeze; 2014 Vodden, Freeze; 2015 Vodden, Loudon, Freeze; 2016 Pointless, Discomfort, Vodden, Sweat; 2017 Turrible
Staff: 2017 Pointless, Vodden, Freeze
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Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

Just bought these today and mounted them myself. And so it begins...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/733402/IMG_2571.png

Race: 2012 Vodden; 2013 Pointless, EMP, Vodden, Freeze; 2014 Vodden, Freeze; 2015 Vodden, Loudon, Freeze; 2016 Pointless, Discomfort, Vodden, Sweat; 2017 Turrible
Staff: 2017 Pointless, Vodden, Freeze
http://yousuckatracing.wordpress.com

Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

rb92673 wrote:

Do they come in a 12" size?

What about 10" ?

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Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

drKorf, savant

The wrap-up video will be some good watchin...

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Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

http://www.walmart.com/ip/H457-205-50R15/43082459
500TW Hankooks FTW!!

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Those daisies and those tires, dr Korf! Genius.

I can't wait for some video of that. I predict somebody still runs a sub 4min lap on those, in the Miata, even....

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Waitaminute waitaminute WAITAGODDAMNMINUTE!!!!!1!1!

You bought tires in January for a race in MAY??!!

AND you MOUNTED them already?!?

Disqualified.


I still have no idea what CAR I'm going to buy the last week of April to prep for the Vodden race let alone know what parts are going to be arriving at my door for it on Monday, May 23rd.

Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

Well, I have just the one car and its next race is in May. I can mount 14" tires pretty easily with the Harbor Freight gizmo. I was hoping to run the tires around on my Yaris dd but some of the spokes rub on the calipers.

Race: 2012 Vodden; 2013 Pointless, EMP, Vodden, Freeze; 2014 Vodden, Freeze; 2015 Vodden, Loudon, Freeze; 2016 Pointless, Discomfort, Vodden, Sweat; 2017 Turrible
Staff: 2017 Pointless, Vodden, Freeze
http://yousuckatracing.wordpress.com

Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

They DON'T EVEN make those tires in 17". sad

Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

215/45/17 is $63. http://www.walmart.com/ip/215-45R17-87V … e/46633823

Race: 2012 Vodden; 2013 Pointless, EMP, Vodden, Freeze; 2014 Vodden, Freeze; 2015 Vodden, Loudon, Freeze; 2016 Pointless, Discomfort, Vodden, Sweat; 2017 Turrible
Staff: 2017 Pointless, Vodden, Freeze
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Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden


  I would say that Mr. Korf has thrown down the gauntlet, Pete...

Gosh, my business card says 'Tech Tyrant'

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Hmmm, Balto on shitty tires...    Maybe the belt will last?

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Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

drKorf wrote:

Well, I have just the one car and its next race is in May. I can mount 14" tires pretty easily with the Harbor Freight gizmo. I was hoping to run the tires around on my Yaris dd but some of the spokes rub on the calipers.


Yea how is that thing? I've had Mechanic friends (ie. they only know the equipment they've worked with because what's professional development LOL) Tell me that you shouldn't use a manual rig for anything but Steel Wheels. Because "it messes them up" no further explanation was forthcoming.

Also balancing. Is a level really good enough to race on?

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Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

The HB tire changer is a bit of a mixed bag. It will scratch rims a little if you're not careful. And I'm not careful. It's hard for me to change a 205/50/15, but I can do a 195/60/14. I don't bother balancing them.

Race: 2012 Vodden; 2013 Pointless, EMP, Vodden, Freeze; 2014 Vodden, Freeze; 2015 Vodden, Loudon, Freeze; 2016 Pointless, Discomfort, Vodden, Sweat; 2017 Turrible
Staff: 2017 Pointless, Vodden, Freeze
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Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

I've seen a lot of good ideas in Lemons, but this might be the best.

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24 (edited by Spank 2016-02-01 05:33 PM)

Re: D-Spec Challenge at Vodden

drKorf wrote:

Yeah, sure. 1 free mile per year. So 15 years on the 5 mile track nets you 3 laps.

If I'm interpreting this right, I may already have a nearly insurmountable lead:

http://www.hubgarage.com/photos/0672/7465/IMG_7116_detail.jpg?1454372897

http://hubgarage.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/6727461/IMG_7115_detail.JPG

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Spank wrote:

If I'm interpreting this right, I may already have a nearly insurmountable lead:

http://hubgarage.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/6727461/IMG_7115_detail.JPG

This should be an equalizer.....:
http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag81/BigBird57/zrhShYL_zpsu0jzl7ur.jpg

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