Topic: Battery Box
We are going to relocate our battery to the hatch area of our car (inside the passenger compartment) so we need a battery box. Looking for suggestions... thanks
John
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We are going to relocate our battery to the hatch area of our car (inside the passenger compartment) so we need a battery box. Looking for suggestions... thanks
John
Go to any auto parts store, or Wal-mart for that matter, and pick up a plastic "marine" battery box in a size that fits your battery. They usually come in two sizes.
Rule 3.G.2: ...Batteries located in, or visible from, the passenger compartment must be sealed-type or contained in a sealed battery box.
My suggestion is use an AGM or other sealed battery and forget the box. A box is a PITA if you need to access the battery during the race. Also, even in a box, the battery still has to be mounted securely. Wallymars-type boxes aren't sealed.
And yet the Walmart Marine battery box we have run for 6 years has never been questioned by Lemons or NASA and lots of other cars run them too
And yet the Walmart Marine battery box we have run for 6 years has never been questioned by Lemons or NASA and lots of other cars run them too
/agree
We just have a basic plastic battery box mounted in the trunk. Never had a problem getting through tech with it.
More important is that the battery and box are securely attached to the car and no the nylon strap that comes with the box is not adequate in a roll over situation.
More important is that the battery and box are securely attached to the car and no the nylon strap that comes with the box is not adequate in a roll over situation.
Yes, I remember this came up and this was the brought up before.
Ours is the Walmart battery box.
- The box is bolted to the floor of the vehicle.
- We fabricated metal brackets that clamped the battery through the box to the floor of the vehicle.
- Any excess room in the box was taken up with wooden blocks (it's solid).
- We do have a nylon strap but that is merely to hold the plastic lid on top.
I found that it also helped to fabricate more than one ground cable for the battery (one clamp but leads to multiple different spots on the body) to insure a quality ground.
-g
We use a plastic bin from Menards...with a very robust metal strap retainer.
bumping this for clarification.
my battery is mounted in the trunk of our Sentra as seen here.
https://i.imgur.com/edNfEI5.jpg
my plan is to make a bulkhead to close off the trunk area from the passenger compartment. I assume this satisfies the rule since it is no longer visible? Do I have to make a bulkhead for the shelf where the speaker were mounted and cover those holes?
Thanks!
bumping this for clarification.
my battery is mounted in the trunk of our Sentra as seen here.
https://i.imgur.com/edNfEI5.jpg
my plan is to make a bulkhead to close off the trunk area from the passenger compartment. I assume this satisfies the rule since it is no longer visible? Do I have to make a bulkhead for the shelf where the speaker were mounted and cover those holes?
Thanks!
You don't need a bulkhead for the battery, but if you are planning on a fuel cell back there then you should go ahead with it.
A bulkhead doesn't remove the need for a battery box, the box is to contain acid spills and protects the terminals from possible short circuit and subsequent fire.
No cell, so we're good here. My thought is....
Rule 3.G.2: ...Batteries located in, or visible from, the passenger compartment must be sealed-type or contained in a sealed battery box.
the bulkhead now means the battery isn't located in the passenger compartment....the reason to avoid a battery box is that my mount is fairly tight around the battery and I like how strongly it is mounted, I would rather not redo it.
No cell, so we're good here. My thought is....
Rule 3.G.2: ...Batteries located in, or visible from, the passenger compartment must be sealed-type or contained in a sealed battery box.
the bulkhead now means the battery isn't located in the passenger compartment....the reason to avoid a battery box is that my mount is fairly tight around the battery and I like how strongly it is mounted, I would rather not redo it.
Ok so I guess it's no different from being under the hood or in the trunk in a factory location, I would still be more comfortable with a box around it but as long as the terminals are covered you should be fine at tech.
I run a lead acid battery in the passenger compartment. It’s enclosed in an old plastic tool box. If you really like your mount, just find some kind of box big enough for it. Toolbox, an old microwave oven, a mop bucket with a lid...
I ran an optima behind the passenger seat on the floor with this mount.
I really like it because the battery is easily accessible and there is no strap on the top. I got the OK from tech on the mount, and went through tech a few weeks ago with no problem. It is very solid.
What someone says they get away with and what the rules state are two different things.
The minimum is 15 pieces of flair, and if you have 15 that's fine, if you just want to do the minimum.....
Bill
What someone says they get away with and what the rules state are two different things.
The minimum is 15 pieces of flair, and if you have 15 that's fine, if you just want to do the minimum.....
Bill
I emailed John Pagel, he said it was OK. He is tech law so I am OK with that.
Not choosing sides here, just sharing my experience.
I wanted to use the STOCK battery mounting, which was a SINGLE metal base clamp and a SINGLE bolt and the other side of the battery slid under a metal lip which substitutes for the second clamp in the aftermarket mount pictured.
I was told by Pagel in person while I was in tech, "I need to see a metal strap over that battery."
Me: "It's the factory mount, it's a metal wedge"
"i don't care that it's a metal mount. The battery is plastic. That's a 40lb battery full of acid. I don't want a 40'lb projectile flying around on my track when you get hit and the plastic battery case breaks or flying around under your hood arcing out and causing a fire. I want a metal strap over that battery. Now get out of my face."
YMMV
The metal mount above will only work with an Optima type sealed batttery, which is likely safer than a lead-acid type. From experience, I know it's certainly superior in terms of longevity and cranking power (ran one for years) and I suspect the "six pack" case design is also stronger than an ordinary battery... might ave something to do with the approval.
I run the Optima in a factory battery tray/mount, with a parts-store battery hold down added to placate the tech gods. With two independent hold-downs I don't think it's going to move...
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