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Has anyone ran these tires?
Federal 595 EVO Load 84 Speed Y UTQG 240AAA
or
Federal SS-595 Load 80 Speed V UTQG 240AA
and if so thoughts?
What can go wrong??....They have "speed" right there in the name.......
What can go wrong??....They have "speed" right there in the name.......
nothing! or everything! lol
This guy has had 3 sets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmOCSLwI8_s
Comments:
- Cheap!
- Noisy
- "Flimsy" feeling sidewalls (and this guy rocks 265/35-R18s).
- Says they communicate when they break...but then complains that they don't communicate as well as premium tires..
- Dry traction: hooks up well
- Around corners, have grip and will let you know when they will let go.
- Drifting: popular with drifters because they are cheap!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0E-UHGCpy0
- Cheap!
- Says he hasn't broken traction (good grip) - 265/35R18
- Rain "not that bad"
- Didn't finish the video though (mostly anecdotal info).
Might be worth a shot.
-g
My tire size (255/40R17s) seem to be $80/ea on jet.com
IN comparison, the best deal I found on Nitto NT05s was $120/ea and that's factoring in Ebay Bucks, Cash back, using GCs purchased at a discount from Samsung Pay, etc. A more normal NT05 price is $133/ea.
Chris O runs the SS-595's on his cars.
A lot depends on the car and drivers. I ran 16" ss595 on the Skunk SHO
and they chunked like mad on the front. But, that's a nose heavy, 3000# car.
A lot depends on the car and drivers. I ran 16" ss595 on the Skunk SHO
and they chunked like mad on the front. But, that's a nose heavy, 3000# car.
will be running 205/40r17 on a roughly 1800lb 1st Gen Celica
We tend to destroy 2 tires a race (front) on our RWD Celica, its 2400 lbs running Falken Azenis rt-615k+ 225/50R16.
You need six really for the first race but those should get you through three races if you rotate wisely.
FYI.
DiscountTireDirect is offering a $100 off $400+ worth of tires via eBay through 3/18
Coupled with a cashback website (like mrrebates.com and eBay Bucks), you can get a pretty good deal w/o tax (hopefully). I've also found that America's Tire/Discount Tire will honor the same mount balance cost as if you had bought the tires from them directly ($19+disposal IIRC)
https://slickdeals.net/f/11334447-100-c … irect-ebay
FYI.
DiscountTireDirect is offering a $100 off $400+ worth of tires via eBay through 3/18
Coupled with a cashback website (like mrrebates.com and eBay Bucks), you can get a pretty good deal w/o tax (hopefully). I've also found that America's Tire/Discount Tire will honor the same mount balance cost as if you had bought the tires from them directly ($19+disposal IIRC)
I am looking at tire-easy.com, $280 shipped for 4 tires.
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MFG: 200L7A
UTQG: 240AAA
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If you pull the trigger on these please let us know the results. I have RS-4s, but would love these as a cheap spare set.
If you pull the trigger on these please let us know the results. I have RS-4s, but would love these as a cheap spare set.
Purchased and mounted, I will let you know the results after Autobahn.
No idea about the EVO, but I have used the 595 RS-RR, which has a 200 rating. I believe this is simply a relabeling from their previous rating of 140. I have used the 205/50/15 size on my Yaris and have compared it back-to-back-to-back with the RE-71R (aka king of the 200TW).
595 RS-RR is narrower (almost like a 195) and cheaper ($80 rather than $108). Lap times are remarkably similar despite the Bridgestone being noticeably better under threshold braking. However, in a 100 hp car, I'm rarely on the brakes so maybe that's why there's little difference. Neither tire is very durable compared to the usual suspects (RT615K, Z2, RS4), and the Federal is less tolerant of camber. That is, if you don't have enough camber (like me), you may find your Federal tires blistering while your Bridgestones just turn blue. Both of these tires can be flipped on the rim to increase longevity, so that's nice.
The main differentiating factor of the tires from my perspective is the tread pattern. The Federal grooves look like flames. So sure, I'll put them on my Lemons car, but no way am I driving on streets like that. I'm a respectable Professor, not a vaping, sagging, ricer, drifter, blah blah blah.
If you pull the trigger on these please let us know the results. I have RS-4s, but would love these as a cheap spare set.
I also like to keep a look out for cheaper tires. In that vein, I tried the Continental ExtremeContact Sport. 340 treadwear with huge rain grooves but a smooth shoulder. Didn't last nearly as long as I would have liked. Not worth getting.
What about S.drives? Yokohama is our corporate overlord. I'd love to report on how well they hold up, but I've never purchased them. Anyone race these and have data or even anecdotes?
I have S-drives on the Imp. Not enough data yet from that to say anything good or bad. They did seem to get a lot of pickup at Thunderhill. Spank ran them on the moke for multiple seasons and liked them. Moke felt like it was lacking a bit in lateral grip. Hard to describe but it felt like it was sliding a bit more than it should but it's also a 300TW tire on a very light car.
I have S-drives on the Imp. Not enough data yet from that to say anything good or bad. They did seem to get a lot of pickup at Thunderhill. Spank ran them on the moke for multiple seasons and liked them. Moke felt like it was lacking a bit in lateral grip. Hard to describe but it felt like it was sliding a bit more than it should but it's also a 300TW tire on a very light car.
Correction: S drives were previously on the Austin America. Went with Federals once the S drives wore out.
Star Specs on the moke except for this last race at Inde when we ran 195/45R-15 Toyo Proxes T1R for $281.96 delivered
cheseroo wrote:I have S-drives on the Imp. Not enough data yet from that to say anything good or bad. They did seem to get a lot of pickup at Thunderhill. Spank ran them on the moke for multiple seasons and liked them. Moke felt like it was lacking a bit in lateral grip. Hard to describe but it felt like it was sliding a bit more than it should but it's also a 300TW tire on a very light car.
Correction: S drives were previously on the Austin America. Went with Federals once the S drives wore out.
Star Specs on the moke except for this last race at Inde when we ran 195/45R-15 Toyo Proxes T1R for $281.96 delivered
Spank are you going to be officiating Autobahn?
cheseroo wrote:I have S-drives on the Imp. Not enough data yet from that to say anything good or bad. They did seem to get a lot of pickup at Thunderhill. Spank ran them on the moke for multiple seasons and liked them. Moke felt like it was lacking a bit in lateral grip. Hard to describe but it felt like it was sliding a bit more than it should but it's also a 300TW tire on a very light car.
Correction: S drives were previously on the Austin America. Went with Federals once the S drives wore out.
Star Specs on the moke except for this last race at Inde when we ran 195/45R-15 Toyo Proxes T1R for $281.96 delivered
So how is the T1R? Can you make any comparisons performance-wise among these cheaper tires?
If you pull the trigger on these please let us know the results. I have RS-4s, but would love these as a cheap spare set.
This past weekend was not really a good race to say how well these tires did. That being said we put almost 200 laps on them, they did decent in the rain. virtually no wear but we only had like 3-4 hours of dry track. Next test gingerman!
FWIW, I intend to buy some S Drives for rain tires as I got spanked by extreme contacts and they don't come in the size I want.
Lazarusing an old thread as we decided to expirement with the Federal SS595 245/45R17 on out flathead-powered fourth gen Camero. It seemed silly to spend $130/ea per tire on something we halved the horsepower and added 450#'s. Bonus, Walmsrt sent us 8 for the price of 4! Should be interesting to see how they do as the 7-year-old all seasons were pretty sad in the first race.
Since this is about Federals; I ran the 595-RS-PRO in the 275/35R18 and was pretty disappointed. They were a solid 3-4 seconds off pace from the Dunlops and were wearing at an alarmingly quick rate. If you aren't trying to win overall, they're probably fine. However, they are not a competitive tire.
If you aren't trying to win overall, they're probably fine. However, they are not a competitive tire.
We aren't even competing for the Class C win...you have seen the Plymero go, right? I mean it will be much faster this round with the brake, suspension and other upgrades...but it is not gonna be breaking any records.
...the 7-year-old all seasons were pretty sad in the first race.
Understandable. In my racing experience, all-seasons don't reach peak performance until more like year twelve.
Understandable. In my racing experience, all-seasons don't reach peak performance until more like year twelve.
We tried when we raced the Esteem...one tire was 10 years old.
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