Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Very curious to see how this monster gets classed and lapped.

It's awesome.

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

C0...would bet a case of my favorite beer on it.  In spite of the amazing fab work, modern'ish engine, etc, the judges know this ambitious of a build with a first time team is going to fail in various ways.

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

OnkelUdo wrote:

C0...would bet a case of my favorite beer on it.  In spite of the amazing fab work, modern'ish engine, etc, the judges know this ambitious of a build with a first time team is going to fail in various ways.

Eric was nice and emailed me to see if I needed anything since we were a first time team. He commented on following the thread and he mentioned we were likely to see penalty laps because of the engine. Hopefully won't be too bad. I'll take whatever pity I can get since I've basically put everything in my life on hold and been putting 12-14 hour days into this thing to get it ready.

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Did you make a profit on the viper that the engine came from? In theory that should make it legal.

Don't sweat the laps if they do give them to you. Even though this thing is a rocket ship, you won't come within a mile of sniffing a win, so the laps are irrelevant. With a rookie team and a car thatll have teething issues, just focus on the fun.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Fishah wrote:

Did you make a profit on the viper that the engine came from? In theory that should make it legal.

Don't sweat the laps if they do give them to you. Even though this thing is a rocket ship, you won't come within a mile of sniffing a win, so the laps are irrelevant. With a rookie team and a car thatll have teething issues, just focus on the fun.

Yeah, when I first started putting the build together I was kicking around options and ways of trying to keep the car at a level that would make sure I got no penalty laps. I decided I just didn't care and would rather build the car how I wanted and took whatever they dished out! The car ended up cooler that way, and I think it will be a lot more fun. If I was going to be pissed about laps I think im racing in the wrong league.

Engine came from a truck, and I think that truck brought in about 15k profit.

Either way, im super excited!

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

darkostoj wrote:

Yeah, when I first started putting the build together I was kicking around options and ways of trying to keep the car at a level that would make sure I got no penalty laps. I decided I just didn't care and would rather build the car how I wanted and took whatever they dished out!

Totally the right attitude.

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

But.....what if it's a rocket ship and it DIDN'T have teething issues?

A class win right out of the box would be improbable and legendary.

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

I view this very much in the same vain as the turbo taxi. Those guys knew they blew the budget, and they were a little outside the "spirit" of things, but they built the car they wanted to build, they were up front about the whole thing, and they had a blast. Same thing going on here.

I would expect some laps, just to appease the "OMG HOW COULD YOU LET THIS BLATANT AFFRONT TO THE RULES" crowd, but it doesn't matter.


The quality of work going into the car is first class, that's for sure. But I will be shocked if there aren't any teething problems at all. Any major project like this always has a few to sort though. Should a riot to drive though.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Quite a week on the forums - the K is showing signs of (life?) and this automatically awesome project (did you see the welds on the exhaust)? is getting ready to roll.

Note, though, since the kill switch locations rules changed over the past few years - is that kill switch location acceptable to tech if it's the only switch in the car?

Anybody want to bet an over-under on the racing weight?

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

fleming95 wrote:

Quite a week on the forums - the K is showing signs of (life?) and this automatically awesome project (did you see the welds on the exhaust)? is getting ready to roll.

Note, though, since the kill switch locations rules changed over the past few years - is that kill switch location acceptable to tech if it's the only switch in the car?

Anybody want to bet an over-under on the racing weight?

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

If you build ANYTHING cool for this series someone will complain...and I for one don't care.  I built my car how I wanted it and I can't wait to race it.

This build is EPIC and I can't wait to see it on the track.


Hope we can beat you though ;-)

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

The trophies this car should earn don’t care about laps. Or even running for more than half the race. If everyone just brings the Midwest same old same old this has an IOE shot even. Although I can see this getting put in class B just for power to weight factors.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

OnkelUdo wrote:
darkostoj wrote:

Yeah, when I first started putting the build together I was kicking around options and ways of trying to keep the car at a level that would make sure I got no penalty laps. I decided I just didn't care and would rather build the car how I wanted and took whatever they dished out!

Totally the right attitude.

Here I am, thinking the 15k is totally the right attitude; yet, I digress....

Let me agree with the level of sophistication of his fabrication skills, and remind the resources that he has at his disposal - which are shown in the background of many of his pictures, including the exotic cars...

In another avocation, I have personally seen the person with amazing natural talent who comes out of nowhere and wins their first competition...

It seems he has made his own 'luck' by preparation and hard work...

With this project, he likely has his pick of team members...

[I can only guess the size of the crowd which will be hanging around the car - I wish I could make It there...]

So it wouldn't surprise me if he does win Gingerman, no matter how many laps he gets, no matter what class.

Agreed: EPIC!

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

https://youtu.be/3ZPmHLZAKWs

I think the power steering box has a crack in the case.  It is POURING onto the ground from the side bolted next to the frame rail. 

The Pedals are DONE, they were hard.

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Exhaust is DONE, it was hard.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Nice work, Darko.  What's the To Do list looking like now?

441 (edited by darkostoj 2018-10-08 07:20 AM)

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

bulletpruf wrote:

Nice work, Darko.  What's the To Do list looking like now?

again off top of my head:

Figure out why steering box is pouring fluid & finish steering shaft
Build shifter linkage
Fill diff & trans with oil
Install Passenger seat
finish brake lines
bleed brakes
install front shocks
roll bar padding
seam seal sunroof panel
install fire extinquisher
alignment
tune engine
make hood pins
install harnesses
install radio
mount false floor

My goal is to make it to test on the track this Wednesay....probably not gonna happen

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Can anyone recommend what bars I need to wrap with roll bar padding?

I read the rules that its anywhere the driver can touch.

I have a seat that wraps around the helmet,and the only thing I can touch while sitting in the seat is the bar that goes up along the drivers door, and the door bars.  Is that all I need to cover?

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Anything you can smack your head on getting in and out I would add padding. Then anything that a limb can flail around and hit during an accident, so door bars, front down bar, windshield bar, stuff like that. Each car is a little different, but those are the common ones.

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444 (edited by darkostoj 2018-10-08 07:03 PM)

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Everybody I would like to introduce you all to WEAK LINK #2.  #1 being the incredibly old and lame rear axle.

When I was welding the shifter (the one bolted to the trans) I got the sucker too hot and it melted the plastic bushings, so its looser than....well its loose.

The linkage is 15" long, and well with the lack of time I have this is just what its gonna be. It will be interesting.

3-4 seem ok, the rest...eehhhhh

This is the 2nd variation I made....the first...don't ask.  Time is precious right now!

Good news, when shifting it's so loud it sounds like all the shifting scenes from FF1

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

darkostoj wrote:

The linkage is 15" long, and well with the lack of time I have this is just what its gonna be. It will be interesting.

3-4 seem ok, the rest...eehhhhh

Is there any torsion in your linkage plates when you push the stick to the side? Adding plates to the top and bottom of the linkage to tie the two sides together might help reduce slop.

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

I'm thinking you are Santa Claus. It is your off season after all
It's the only way I can fathom getting this much stuff done in this time frame..
Pretty sure some elves are helping...
After all Santa gets a lot done in one night tongue

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

With the torque you have, two gears is plenty.  Some teams have run entire races with only 4th gear functional and they were barely off their normal pace PLUS could run longer stints due t the fuel economy gain.

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

OnkelUdo wrote:

With the torque you have, two gears is plenty.  Some teams have run entire races with only 4th gear functional and they were barely off their normal pace PLUS could run longer stints due t the fuel economy gain.

We very well may be one of those teams racing in one gear yikes

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

darkostoj wrote:
OnkelUdo wrote:

With the torque you have, two gears is plenty.  Some teams have run entire races with only 4th gear functional and they were barely off their normal pace PLUS could run longer stints due t the fuel economy gain.

We very well may be one of those teams racing in one gear yikes

As long as the trans is functional, it is fine. We lost 3rd on the Rover last year at Loudon. Welded in a spacer and ran the rest of the race w/o 3rd. The driver had to go around in 4th most of the time, but that is fine. As others have said, with that engine torque, it doesn't really matter.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

chaase wrote:
darkostoj wrote:
OnkelUdo wrote:

With the torque you have, two gears is plenty.  Some teams have run entire races with only 4th gear functional and they were barely off their normal pace PLUS could run longer stints due t the fuel economy gain.

We very well may be one of those teams racing in one gear yikes

As long as the trans is functional, it is fine. We lost 3rd on the Rover last year at Loudon. Welded in a spacer and ran the rest of the race w/o 3rd. The driver had to go around in 4th most of the time, but that is fine. As others have said, with that engine torque, it doesn't really matter.

Hah, yeah. Not worried about it.  My goal is to just finish the race, I'm ok if its with one gear!

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