Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

darkostoj wrote:

I decided to rip out the factory rear suspension, weighed it, 430lbs!

https://image.ibb.co/hGGSWU/IMG_20180813_104700.jpg

I don't think there were enough brake lines there.

You should run a few more.

Just to be safe.

152 (edited by darkostoj 2018-08-15 04:08 PM)

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Played around with spacers and the happy rear axle WMS is 62.5"

Got the axle in place and measuring everything to see where I can build brackets and how I'm going to design the suspension....never done this before! Looks like I may cut a hole in the trunk for the upper arm.

275/40/20 tires in the rear, VERY tight fit.

https://i.imgur.com/q0D5PEK.jpg

I tried a new tig rod that is advertised to be able to cold weld cast iron.  Tried it out for the first time and it welded very ugly, but it looks solid enough.  I welded both the outside and inside of the exhaust Vband.  There was no way the original 3 bolt flange was going to work, so had to go with something that had more clearance.

I'm machining a half inch off the drivers side manifold, and once I get it back I'm going to shove the engine as far over to the passenger side as possible to help with getting that dang steering shaft in place.

https://i.imgur.com/7Irt4MG.jpg

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Anybody have tire recommendations?

Front 245/45/20

Rear 275/40/20

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154 (edited by TheEngineer 2018-08-16 05:45 AM)

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

None of the common go to tires seem to come that large, however the Michelin Pilot Super Sports do, and those are a fantastic tire. Higher treadwear, around 300, but that might be a good thing for a heavier car.

Plenty of other tires if you walk farther away from the performance end.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

darkostoj wrote:

Anybody have tire recommendations?

Front 245/45/20

Rear 275/40/20


If your goal is to see just how much you can spend on tires, you're headed down the right path.  My buddy is currently building a new Lemons car that will be running 285/35/18's and in the RS4s they are $290 each.  That's $1240 for one set of tires (including M&B) and a car that heavy won't make it on one set.

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156 (edited by darkostoj 2018-08-18 02:20 PM)

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

More updates!

55 Days Left!

So, got a really ugly steering wheel.

https://i.imgur.com/oJchBVR.jpg

Have rusty floors & found the shifter with a test hole

https://i.imgur.com/QGluIDN.jpg

Have to cut holes in trunk for rear suspension

https://i.imgur.com/mkiWPxr.jpg

Front Wheels are machined to fit over the hubs

https://i.imgur.com/5qWE7TY.jpg

#stancenation

https://i.imgur.com/0tbftBR.jpg

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

I won't lie, it doesn't look half bad on those wheels.

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158 (edited by darkostoj 2018-08-19 10:40 AM)

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

TheEngineer wrote:

I won't lie, it doesn't look half bad on those wheels.

The body is so huge that even a 26 inch tire with 18" wheel looked not right. It has close to 29" tires on it with 20s. I think I would like to out a 30" tire on it and see how it fits once I get more done on the car and start doing alignment and ride height stuff. I love sidewall. Also need white walls.

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159 (edited by bilcoh 2018-08-19 09:50 PM)

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darkostoj wrote:

Also need white walls.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41%2BXNA0TlGL.jpg

https://www.amazon.com/Anvil-White-Wall … B0798VVCD3

But it might push you over the $500 limit, since it's not a safety item.

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Bad ass!

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Not sure how I missed this, what a great class C car! Can’t wait to see it and hear it at Gingerman!

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

MDG wrote:

Not sure how I missed this, what a great class C car! Can’t wait to see it and hear it at Gingerman!

Not sure if you will hear it. 

It will have as many mufflers as required for it to be "elegantly nimble"

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52 Days Left!

Drivers exhaust manifold is milled down about a half inch.  Hopefully I can get that dang steering shaft clearance I need!

https://i.imgur.com/vd2ePdU.jpg

Secret weapon showed up today - #chirpingearspullingbrodies

https://i.imgur.com/h60V51X.jpg

Side Note - 2 ZR1's showed up for parts today.  I wonder how many people would be upset if a set of the ceramic brakes eventually wound up on the rolls....maybe next year.

https://i.imgur.com/ccyPb12.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LRaD8yE.jpg

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Brakes are budget exempt, so do what you want. However I'd really suggest getting good purpose designed pads, especially with a car that heavy that you're trying to make quick. Give the major brake companies a call and see what they suggest. We're a raysbestos ST-43 fanboy, but they might recommend a different material for the added weight.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

TheEngineer wrote:

Brakes are budget exempt, so do what you want. However I'd really suggest getting good purpose designed pads, especially with a car that heavy that you're trying to make quick. Give the major brake companies a call and see what they suggest. We're a raysbestos ST-43 fanboy, but they might recommend a different material for the added weight.

Car is getting the Corvette Z06 brakes.

The ceramic stuff may be a fun thing for down the road.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Hold on a sec -

https://i.imgur.com/ccyPb12.jpg

What sort of Elise-y looking things are back-and-to-the-left of the ex-Vettes?

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

fleming95 wrote:

Hold on a sec -

https://i.imgur.com/ccyPb12.jpg

What sort of Elise-y looking things are back-and-to-the-left of the ex-Vettes?

There are 2 Fisker Karma's, a Lotus Evora, a Gen V Viper, and a Ferrari California in the picture.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

darkostoj wrote:

52 Days Left!

Drivers exhaust manifold is milled down about a half inch.  Hopefully I can get that dang steering shaft clearance I need!

https://i.imgur.com/vd2ePdU.jpg

Secret weapon showed up today - #chirpingearspullingbrodies

https://i.imgur.com/h60V51X.jpg

Side Note - 2 ZR1's showed up for parts today.  I wonder how many people would be upset if a set of the ceramic brakes eventually wound up on the rolls....maybe next year.

The only people who will be upset are your team mates when it comes time to change pads and rotors.

Brakes are fair game and probably a good Idea to consider.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

darkostoj wrote:
fleming95 wrote:

Hold on a sec -

https://i.imgur.com/ccyPb12.jpg

What sort of Elise-y looking things are back-and-to-the-left of the ex-Vettes?

There are 2 Fisker Karma's, a Lotus Evora, a Gen V Viper, and a Ferrari California in the picture.

A Ferrari California with a Sir Mix-A-Lot theme would be kickin'. Too bad they are still worth too much as novelty junk parts to be a Lemons racer.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

TheEngineer wrote:

Brakes are budget exempt, so do what you want. However I'd really suggest getting good purpose designed pads, especially with a car that heavy that you're trying to make quick. Give the major brake companies a call and see what they suggest. We're a raysbestos ST-43 fanboy, but they might recommend a different material for the added weight.

Our fat effing T-bird was super happy on the R4-E pads we put on it this time. Barely 1/3 wear.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Guildenstern wrote:
TheEngineer wrote:

Brakes are budget exempt, so do what you want. However I'd really suggest getting good purpose designed pads, especially with a car that heavy that you're trying to make quick. Give the major brake companies a call and see what they suggest. We're a raysbestos ST-43 fanboy, but they might recommend a different material for the added weight.

Our fat effing T-bird was super happy on the R4-E pads we put on it this time. Barely 1/3 wear.

Our Saab is like 3400lbs entering the track. We had 5 races on our ST-43 pads and could have gotten one or two more if the wheel bearing hadn't obliterated one corner. Those pads are magical.


darkostoj - Hardware do what you want, but pads and fluid are what matter most. Seriously, get good race oriented pads for whatever calipers you put on the car. Street pads, no matter what car they come from, are not designed for endurance racing and you will eat them. Lots of opinions on pads, but the best bet is calling the company and asking their opinion since they know what their compounds are designed for. Raysbestos added the Saab 9-5 pads to their website after we talked to them asking what we should use. Fill the car with racing oriented fluid like ATE Type 200 or Motul RBF600.

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TheEngineer wrote:

Our Saab is like 3400lbs entering the track. We had 5 races on our ST-43 pads and could have gotten one or two more if the wheel bearing hadn't obliterated one corner. Those pads are magical.

Another vote for running the ST-43s.  Their life span depends on the track configuration and the weight of the car, but they last at LEAST 3X as long as any other pad we've run in the past.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

I am digging the rims that you picked out.

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174 (edited by darkostoj 2018-08-22 05:10 PM)

Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

50 DAYS
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SUCCESS - Steering shaft has clearance.

https://i.imgur.com/izdZY7Y.jpg

Working on Rear suspension now.

Really want to try and fit a 30" tire.

https://i.imgur.com/khYrFvW.jpg

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Wow, just how long is that steering shaft?

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