Topic: Driving AFTER people's curse?

So if the people's curse is a potential deterrent to crappy, aggressive driving and cheating prior to the midway point, what's it like AFTER the people's curse? Do cars suddenly find themselves a few gadgets faster and does on-track mayhem increase exponentially?

Sorry for so many newbie questions...

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Re: Driving AFTER people's curse?

Interesting question.  I don't think so.  You'd still have to face the wrath of Jonny and Phil when you got black flagged.  Our car is such a POS that i've never had to worry about the curse.  Our car is so bad that the last time we went through BS inspection they didn't even open the hood.  Zero laps and a warning to get that piece of junk away from them.

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3 (edited by MurileeMartin 2009-06-19 02:12 PM)

Re: Driving AFTER people's curse?

Some drivers might get a bit more aggressive late on Sunday, just because they're battling to come in 73rd instead of 74th (the real contenders are almost invariably the no-drama clean types, and they're not going to go apeshit all of a sudden), but at that point many of the cars are on jackstands, surrounded by busted parts and pools of steaming fluids, so the opportunities for on-track jackassery will be lower. We do see a surge in black flags by the usual suspects during the last few hours, but the Lemons Supreme Court generally handles the problem by putting repeat offenders on the trailer. We do the same with cheaters who think that we won't notice their racing slicks (we always do, because someone will rat them out to us).

So, by the time the Curse happens, all the bad/aggro drivers are already on thin ice at that point and they know it (though they don't always get the message; we always end up trailering at least a few teams in the last hour or two). None of the real contenders- who are contenders because they've avoided penalties- will start driving like total jerkolas just because they're no longer in danger of being crushed.

4 (edited by EvergreenDan 2009-06-19 01:42 PM)

Re: Driving AFTER people's curse?

As a racing and Lemons noob, I'm wondering if someone could give some examples of what would and would not be considered "jerkola" passing and driving (other than obvious things)? Especially for a circle track (Stafford / New England).

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Re: Driving AFTER people's curse?

If there are tire chicanes at the race, it's not uncommon (especially early in the race when almost all the cars are still running) for there to be some significant backups and gridlock going into the tire chicane. A pretty typical example of the jackassery this seems to induce is that some asshat will zoom past the line of cars queued up for the chicane and cut in at the front. Since the general rule at Lemons is that in a contact situation, both cars go into penalty, inevitably some weak sister up at the front of the line doesn't want to go into penalty for ramming the asshat into the tire barrier and lets him squeeze in.

Personally, I'm thinking there should be a specific penalty for both members of that situation. The line jumper's squad should be penalized something like 60 minutes of nonstop full team jumping jacks in full driving regalia, including helmets. Or maybe they have to jump over one another leapfrog-style in a lap around the entire paddock? And then they have to recite from memory the entire limestone quarry scene from "Breaking Away," including the part where the frat guys yell "Cutters!"

As for the cuttee, the driver who let in the cutter should have to lie there motionless while his teammates cut his car's bodywork to ribbons with sawzalls.

After those penalties are enforced, the cutting team gets all 4 tires cut and then gets to go back on track. The cuttee team, being humbly shamed, can resume driving with a new driver.

Just a suggestion or two. smile

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Re: Driving AFTER people's curse?

Mulry wrote:

If there are tire chicanes at the race, it's not uncommon (especially early in the race when almost all the cars are still running) for there to be some significant backups and gridlock going into the tire chicane. A pretty typical example of the jackassery this seems to induce is that some asshat will zoom past the line of cars queued up for the chicane and cut in at the front. Since the general rule at Lemons is that in a contact situation, both cars go into penalty, inevitably some weak sister up at the front of the line doesn't want to go into penalty for ramming the asshat into the tire barrier and lets him squeeze in.

Personally, I'm thinking there should be a specific penalty for both members of that situation. The line jumper's squad should be penalized something like 60 minutes of nonstop full team jumping jacks in full driving regalia, including helmets. Or maybe they have to jump over one another leapfrog-style in a lap around the entire paddock? And then they have to recite from memory the entire limestone quarry scene from "Breaking Away," including the part where the frat guys yell "Cutters!"

As for the cuttee, the driver who let in the cutter should have to lie there motionless while his teammates cut his car's bodywork to ribbons with sawzalls.

After those penalties are enforced, the cutting team gets all 4 tires cut and then gets to go back on track. The cuttee team, being humbly shamed, can resume driving with a new driver.

Just a suggestion or two. smile

Interesting! Can we implement this for Texas freeways, too?