Re: MUSTER READ! The real TRUTH about that CHEATING ASS MAXIMA!!!!

Judge Jonny wrote:
1400Laps wrote:

Judges, is there any data regarding longer stints leading to more mistakes or the opposite???  The huge amount of sensory input had to wear on drivers. And for some reason exhaust fumes at this race seemed worse. Could have been our car, but we could not identify a problem.

the Shoe

Data? Yeah, as soon as our database administrator gets back from his vacation in Bali I'll have him run some queries for you.

Data?

But I thought the Lamm-Martin Institute for Advanced Motorsport Studies was real!!!
My world is crushed - RUINED I tell ya! :wailingandgnashingofteeth:

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Re: MUSTER READ! The real TRUTH about that CHEATING ASS MAXIMA!!!!

Since I have a Maxima and am a Nissan guy, I'm going to point out a few things.

BS Laps can cost someone a victory.  10 laps are less than 1 Black Flag penalty.  If you realize 10 BS factor laps are fatal, maybe you now realize 1 penalty is too.  Unless everyone else gets a Penalty too which was pretty much the case at Thunderhill.  So if you would have stayed out of trouble, you could have overcome your BS laps.

4th Gen Maximas are glorified Quest Mini Vans.  They have a solid rear axle.

Yes guys mod Maximas as seen on Maxima.org. 

I've got a 3rd gen 4DSC with lots of suspension upgrades.  It has 4 wheel independent suspension and it's just okay.  Far from the E36 I sold instead of the Maxima.

There are more cheap suspension parts for the 4th gen than the 4DSC 3rd gen.

So since all you guys now consider 4th gen Maximas bad ass ringers, here are a few cheap ones:

1996 Nissan Maxima - $650 (Houston,TX)
Date: 2009-11-05, 4:03PM CST
Reply to: sale-3k3qx-1453158858@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

Mileage: 129, 199

Details: Looks like the car rolled it has front windshield and roof damage.

Salvage Parts:

Good Hood
Front Headlights
Driver Side Doors Front & Back
Good Dash (Instrument Panel)
Automatic Transmission
Good Engine
Slightly worn leather seats
Trunk Compartment
Tail lights
Black Back Bumper
4 Nissan Rims
Chrome Door Handles
Bose CD/Cassette Player
Air Conditioning Vents

Salvage Title/Non Repairable

1998 Nissan Maxima 4Door 1998 Nissan Maxima 4Door - $1000 (houston ,west houston , Alief)
Date: 2009-11-10, 6:47AM CST
Reply to: sale-r45d9-1459295514@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

1998 Nissan Maxima 4Door

HABLO ESPANOL

PHOTOS on LINK BELOW
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1998 Nissan Maxima 4Door
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Miles155,603

Radiator Blew up on my wife about 2 months ago on the freeway
We got it towed to the house and has been sitting there ever since
It was running fine till then, the car won't start,, but everything else comes on
With a good tune up it will be a nice smooth running car
Cracked windshield & lil window on the back broke
Everything is power windows power locks
Fabric Interior
Great car to work on ! ! !!!
ON THE 2 PHOTOS WITH THE ENGINE THATS ALL THE LIQUID THAT EXPLODED FROM THE RADIATOR
NOT RUST

!! Hablo Espanol Tambien !!
Car is not Running ! !

Asking for 1000 or BEST OFFER! !
I can provide more photos too

Here are some photos

97 NISSAN MAXIMA PARTS CAR - $700 (MONTGOMERY)
Date: 2009-11-21, 11:38AM CST
Reply to: see below

97 nissan maxima parts car good engine and transmission needs rear passenger door and windshield but put door on and windshieldand great transportation call David or Linda 832-XXX-XXXX


1997 nissan maxima - $700 (the woodlands )
Date: 2009-10-27, 10:41AM CDT
Reply to: sale-gzuzb-1439774100@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

1997 missan maxima with a 1999 motor this car runs great it has several things we have replace coil packs injectors all the sensors an much more, yes it has some front end damage but its all cosmetic an very cheapily fixed if you go to a scrap yard! this is a great deal call for more info or to see the car edward harris 713 xxx xxxx

Troy

#35 LRE
1973 Datsun 240Z

Re: MUSTER READ! The real TRUTH about that CHEATING ASS MAXIMA!!!!

Johnny,

There is now a forum / Lemons rule regarding nick names for team mates? All I wanted to know was what opening stint was he refering to, Sat or Sun. I then can determine what driver he was watching in the car.

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It's not a rule. It's a PENALTY. Penalties are at the judges whim, therefore, it is whimsical.

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Re: MUSTER READ! The real TRUTH about that CHEATING ASS MAXIMA!!!!

Sleipnir wrote:

Those were all within 30 seconds of each other on day 1. :-)
The last was after a sliding fishtail 4-wheel skid through the inside of T5 (2 wheels off) though a group of cars (no contact, but clearly out of control).
Not saying it wasn't a nice move/save, but the kind of thing you see in the last lap/corner of a sprint race, not the first hour of an enduro.

It's likely we'll have video of this... copying it now. Damn this thumb drive is slow.

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Re: MUSTER READ! The real TRUTH about that CHEATING ASS MAXIMA!!!!

well sounds like it was gitS ehT doing what he does best

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ifb_mole wrote:

Johnny,

There is now a forum / Lemons rule regarding nick names for team mates?

i think there is...for you.

mike - Schumacher Taxi Service
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i done figured it out.  all of it, i done figured it out.

West Coast drivers think 14.5 hours over two days is a sprint race.  maybe not as a team but as the singular units that they race within.  ..........oh wait.......... maybe they don't quite get that team thing, what with the tanning and the Blackberry addictions, and the constant screen testing between wait staff shifts.  i'm just saying........... smile

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If I didn't know better, I would swear that Troy just took up for ifb_mole.

Beware, the apocalypse is nigh! smile

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Mulry wrote:

If I didn't know better, I would swear that Troy just took up for ifb_mole.

Beware, the apocalypse is nigh! smile

Whoa, whoa, whoa -- what else would Troy do?

I can't see or imagine him doing anything but.

"This is the scene where I get shot," Bronson said. "I have these little squibs that explode to make it look like bullets are hitting." "Fascinating," said Bergman. "I never knew how they did that." "You mean," asked Bronson, "you don't use machine guns in your movies?"

Re: MUSTER READ! The real TRUTH about that CHEATING ASS MAXIMA!!!!

Judge Jonny wrote:
Mulry wrote:

If I didn't know better, I would swear that Troy just took up for ifb_mole.

Beware, the apocalypse is nigh! smile

Whoa, whoa, whoa -- what else would Troy do?

I can't see or imagine him doing anything but.

I did stick up for the guy a bit and criticized them a bit too.

There are plenty of cheap 4th gen Maximas.

Those guys didn't lose cause of their BS factor laps, they lost due to penalties. 

Not only that, they don't understand why they got the penalties.

Troy

#35 LRE
1973 Datsun 240Z

Re: MUSTER READ! The real TRUTH about that CHEATING ASS MAXIMA!!!!

How many threads do we have going on about this team...

...good lord... my right eye is now blind and I'm numb on the left side of my body....

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Re: MUSTER READ! The real TRUTH about that CHEATING ASS MAXIMA!!!!

Troy wrote:
Judge Jonny wrote:
Mulry wrote:

If I didn't know better, I would swear that Troy just took up for ifb_mole.

Beware, the apocalypse is nigh! smile

Whoa, whoa, whoa -- what else would Troy do?

I can't see or imagine him doing anything but.

I did stick up for the guy a bit and criticized them a bit too.

There are plenty of cheap 4th gen Maximas.

Those guys didn't lose cause of their BS factor laps, they lost due to penalties. 

Not only that, they don't understand why they got the penalties.

Troy and SCCA All Star/Lawyer share a common flaw

the unability to deal with the subjective side of Lemons.

"This is the scene where I get shot," Bronson said. "I have these little squibs that explode to make it look like bullets are hitting." "Fascinating," said Bergman. "I never knew how they did that." "You mean," asked Bronson, "you don't use machine guns in your movies?"

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Judge Jonny wrote:

Troy and SCCA All Star/Lawyer share a common flaw

the unability to deal with the subjective side of Lemons.

Ahem: "Inability"

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Mad_Science wrote:
Judge Jonny wrote:

Troy and SCCA All Star/Lawyer share a common flaw

the unability to deal with the subjective side of Lemons.

Ahem: "Inability"

It's his unalienable right to spell it that way. wink

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Celing Cat does not approve of this thread.

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Typically when invoking Ceiling Cat, one posts a picture of Ceiling Cat. http://crownvic.us/forum/images/smilies/new/thinker.gif

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Celing cat does not wish to be officially associated with this thread, or whiners, therefore will not officially endorse this thread with an appearance.

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That bastard. :shakesfist:

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I think ceiling cat is *ahem* watching me do something related to another website...

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Re: MUSTER READ! The real TRUTH about that CHEATING ASS MAXIMA!!!!

Judge Jonny wrote:

Troy and SCCA All Star/Lawyer share a common flaw

the unability to deal with the subjective side of Lemons.

I'm kinda offended by that. 

Don't get my wrong, I'm known for long winded posts but I don't think I have bitched endlessly about about getting screwed by the Judges.

Regarding locking up the brakes, I thought 4th gen Maximas all had ABS.

Which brings up another point, does SCCA driving school teach brake MODULATION?

This statement for the Booted post kind of offends me:

1.) Being an SCCA member doesn't mean you're a pro, did I say that? NO.  Though being an SCCA license holder member does require some more structured schooling and generally racing more competition prepared and faster cars, but a pro? nope, but there are pro SCCA drivers

We are running IT type cars here built on almost no budget and pounded on more in 1 weekend than a year in SCCA.  Fast laps in Lemons are not that far off Spec Miata times and we are on street tires not R comps.  Give us comparable tires and that could be real interesting.

One more thing to keep in mind, this is the same guy who wanted to race on 1 new tire and 3 used ones.  His all star driver was heavily discouraging that along with plenty of people on the forum.  Wouldn't a bunch of bad ass licensed and experienced SCCA drivers know, understand and want good tires?

If you are going to play the SCCA card, you should exemplify what you claim it represents and demonstrate some better freakin' car control!

Troy

#35 LRE
1973 Datsun 240Z

Re: MUSTER READ! The real TRUTH about that CHEATING ASS MAXIMA!!!!

Troy wrote:

... play the SCCA card ...

Playing the SCCA card in this forum is like scuba diving with a chum bucket.

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Troy wrote:

Fast laps in Lemons are not that far off Spec Miata times and we are on street tires not R comps.  Give us comparable tires and that could be real interesting.

You must not have any good spec miata drivers in your area, then, or your Lemons cars are much faster than they are here.  I had something like the 3rd or 4th fastest lap at Thunderhill this past weekend and it was more than 13 seconds off my best spec miata lap.

Just sayin'

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EvergreenDan wrote:
Troy wrote:

... play the SCCA card ...

Playing the SCCA card in this forum is like scuba diving with a chum bucket.

Zing!

"This is the scene where I get shot," Bronson said. "I have these little squibs that explode to make it look like bullets are hitting." "Fascinating," said Bergman. "I never knew how they did that." "You mean," asked Bronson, "you don't use machine guns in your movies?"

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EvergreenDan wrote:
Troy wrote:

... play the SCCA card ...

Playing the SCCA card in this forum is like scuba diving with a chum bucket.

mmmm....delicious chum...

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