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Topic: Are Legends cars allowed to be entered?

Are Legends cars allowed to be entered?  I have a line on a Legends car....CHEAP!!

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Re: Are Legends cars allowed to be entered?

Only production based cars are allowed.

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Re: Are Legends cars allowed to be entered?

Entries must be "...mass-produced, four-wheeled vehicles legal for US highway use at the time of their manufacture." Lemons HQ has granted case-by-case waivers specifically for the "US" part of that but has made it clear that they don't want to see purpose-built race cars such as (but not limited to) Legends cars.

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Re: Are Legends cars allowed to be entered?

paulkracing wrote:

Are Legends cars allowed to be entered?  I have a line on a Legends car....CHEAP!!

I'd think they'd be too small.

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Re: Are Legends cars allowed to be entered?

mharrell wrote:

Entries must be "...mass-produced, four-wheeled vehicles legal for US highway use at the time of their manufacture."

Reading the rules is hard.

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Re: Are Legends cars allowed to be entered?

VKZ24 wrote:

Reading the rules is hard.

In defense of the original question, that rule does mention the possibility of waivers without going into much detail about what sort of vehicle might be eligible for one. Well, aside from Peterbilts, Zambonis, sidecars, or golf carts, that is.

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Re: Are Legends cars allowed to be entered?

mharrell wrote:
VKZ24 wrote:

Reading the rules is hard.

In defense of the original question, that rule does mention the possibility of waivers without going into much detail about what sort of vehicle might be eligible for one. Well, aside from Peterbilts, Zambonis, sidecars, or golf carts, that is.

I think the waivers were for cars that were for the "never sold in the US for legal Hwy usage" or the wheelbase part (a car just under the limit)... say a  LADA or some commie block junk which would get you instant IOE status..

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Re: Are Legends cars allowed to be entered?

Legends cars will fall way outside the rules. Both on the mass produced aspect and also on wheelbase.

GENERAL VEHICLE REGULATIONS
3.D.1 Minimum Wheelbase. The minimum acceptable wheelbase is 82 inches (as delivered by the factory). Cars with smaller wheelbases may be granted a waiver by Lemons after extensive review of the team’s construction and safety plans. (These plans inevitably require extensive, high-quality engineering; lots of new material; and huge amounts of high-quality fabrication. If you’re the least bit shy on talent, dedication, or budget, it’s better to pick something else.)


What is a Legend Car?
Wheelbase    73.00"
Horsepower    132 HP
Weight    1300 lbs. with driver
Tires    205/13R60 Federal Tires 595
Wheels    Width: 7" / Diameter: 13"

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Re: Are Legends cars allowed to be entered?

TrackGeeks_Chris wrote:

Legends cars will fall way outside the rules. Both on the mass produced aspect and also on wheelbase.

GENERAL VEHICLE REGULATIONS
3.D.1 Minimum Wheelbase. The minimum acceptable wheelbase is 82 inches (as delivered by the factory). Cars with smaller wheelbases may be granted a waiver by Lemons after extensive review of the team’s construction and safety plans. (These plans inevitably require extensive, high-quality engineering; lots of new material; and huge amounts of high-quality fabrication. If you’re the least bit shy on talent, dedication, or budget, it’s better to pick something else.)


What is a Legend Car?
Wheelbase    73.00"
Horsepower    132 HP
Weight    1300 lbs. with driver
Tires    205/13R60 Federal Tires 595
Wheels    Width: 7" / Diameter: 13"


The roll cage would not meet the rules sheet either.

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