Topic: Cold Fire suppression systems.

Is anyone using or planning on using a Cold Fire suppression system in their car?

I know it's non-corrosive unlike regular foam, and doesn't quickly dilute like Halon style units, but boy is there poor marketing for these things.

Experiences? Horror Stories? Anything at all?

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Re: Cold Fire suppression systems.

From the rules
"3.F.3 Onboard Fire Suppression System or Extinguisher. Lemons EXCEEDINGLY STRONGLY recommends a properly plumbed, fully charged, securely mounted SFI- or FIA-certified onboard fire suppression system with agent-appropriate nozzles. Minimum acceptable is a 5-lb system covering the driver compartment and engine compartment. Highly preferred is a 10-lb system covering the driver compartment, engine compartment, and fuel storage area. Cars not meeting these standards must carry a fully charged Purple K, Type 10B:C, or Type A:B:C extinguisher, 2.5 lbs or larger, located in easy reach of the driver and secured via a proper, purpose-made, all-metal quick-release brack"


I see from the coldfire MSDS that they only rapidly snuff out Class A,B,D and K fires.
http://www.coldfire.biz/files/ColdFire_MSDS_2010.pdf

Purple K supports class B and C fires
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple-K


So apparently class C fires (electrical) aren't effected by Cold Fire
http://www.falckproductions.com/resourc … c-d-and-k/

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Re: Cold Fire suppression systems.

We have been waiting for the official rules on the Suppression Systems before purchasing ours.  Mostly because user serviceable systems are not SFI- or FIA-certified.  Because of that I would guess that the Cold Fire systems are not certified. 

I was looking at a system like this but I dont think it will pass tech:
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/produ … n=201710-1

Will not know for sure until the rule updates are out.  It would be nice to see some user serviceable options allowed just in case our system was deployed (either accidentally or intentionally). It suck to be out for the weekend because we cannot find a place to refill the bottle.

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4 (edited by Guildenstern 2017-10-07 02:01 AM)

Re: Cold Fire suppression systems.

That's weird because AFFF aren't C rated either. Obviously because both they and Cold Fire are water based.

I suspect FIA or SFI trumps fire category rating. But there will probably be some rewriting once Installed system only is required.

And n0m4d I think it needs to be 4L if not in "pounds" Just based on what they sell in the store.
And yea DJ makes a sealed burst disk SFI rated Cold Fire Bottle. 5 and 10 LB.

Whoopsies freak me out too. Especially with the push knob type units. At least with a T-handle Pull you have to be more intentional to set it off as opposed to an errant elbow.

Mistake By The Lake Racing (MBTL)
88 Thunderbird "THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO!", Ex Astris, Rubigo / Semper Fracti
A&D: 2014 Sebrings at Sebring (NSF), 2014 NJMP2 Jurassic Park (SpeedyCop), 2012 Summit Point J30 (PiNuts)
2018 Route Sucky-Suck Rally Miata, 2019 World Tour Of Texas 64 Newport

Re: Cold Fire suppression systems.

n0m4d wrote:

It would be nice to see some user serviceable options allowed just in case our system was deployed (either accidentally or intentionally). It suck to be out for the weekend because we cannot find a place to refill the bottle.

That's a very good point. We've only accidentally discharged ours once, and luckily it was after the race trying to put the lock pin back in. We've never worried about it too much since we always carry a handheld extinguisher and mounting bracket in the parts bin just in case.

Re: Cold Fire suppression systems.

From a sales pitch at Pegasus Auto racing for firecharger systems:

"Not SFI approved. SFI and FIA standards both require fire systems to be serviced and filled only by factory-trained personnel."

That guy