351 Reply by darkostoj (edited by darkostoj 2018-09-22 01:44 PM)

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

18 DAYS and still have to do A LOT

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Made the rear sway bar links today

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Went a little overkill of the FPR bracket.

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352 Reply by mbm351 (edited by mbm351 2018-09-22 02:53 PM)

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Now we can all see the dedication this man has and how into the spirit he is.  Rolls Royce, Viper, Corvette, nice welds, good fabrication and HARBOR FREIGHT tools (I have a pile of those tape measures also) GO DARKOSTOJ GO!!!

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

There really better be a judge or org choice in the works for this masterpiece.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Lemon_Newton-Metre wrote:

[edited] This thread just keeps on getting better and better.

There should be a new trophy for this....
[edited]
This is epic.

Doubling down on my previous post...

355 Reply by darkostoj (edited by darkostoj 2018-09-22 08:23 PM)

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So.

The axle I put in had a leaking pinion seal, and i spent about an hour looking for the type of pinion seal that the 3rd member needs.

Well....looks like this axle came out of a 1958 Ford F100... Yikes

https://i.imgur.com/H1qkEmp.jpg

Welded up the subframe to body brackets I made that were tacked.

https://i.imgur.com/mdTGoGx.jpg

Started playing around with putting together the remote shifter I cut the top off a factory T56 shifter and welding a 1" pipe to it, then cut the bottom off another aftermarket 6 speed shifter and bolting it to the trans tunnel. I added those little extensions to hopefully help eliminate slop in the side to side movement of the shifter...who knows never done it before!

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Good thing car had a huge trunk, space filled up fast.

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356 Reply by darkostoj (edited by darkostoj 2018-09-22 08:19 PM)

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mbm351 wrote:

Now we can all see the dedication this man has and how into the spirit he is.  Rolls Royce, Viper, Corvette, nice welds, good fabrication and HARBOR FREIGHT tools (I have a pile of those tape measures also) GO DARKOSTOJ GO!!!

Hah, almost all my tools are harbor freight. Drill press, cheap bandsaw, belt sander, welding mask, etc, etc, etc

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Apologies if this came up earlier and I missed it...what did your building “used to be?” I find old industry absolutely fascinating, let alone how you repurposed it smile I

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Christ on a bike, this makes anything I've put together look elementary.

I would usually be proud of being able to yank the engine and trans out of our S500 in two hours, as we did this morning. Took about 20 pounds of useless plastic, screws, and ductwork out too. Good build day.

But not compared to another day of creating a Rolls-bodied super car out of thin air.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

gtopat wrote:

Apologies if this came up earlier and I missed it...what did your building “used to be?” I find old industry absolutely fascinating, let alone how you repurposed it smile I

I was curious about this a while ago.

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RIVNUTS, Gosh what a smart idea. I have a team mate who would have just recommended you use a zip screw instead.
Same team member who BOUGHT the RivNut tool paradoxically enough.

I know a team member that always wants to do rivnuts and gets very frustrated with them..
The team member you mention also usually welds nuts to things that need threads....

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

darkostoj wrote:
mbm351 wrote:

Now we can all see the dedication this man has and how into the spirit he is.  Rolls Royce, Viper, Corvette, nice welds, good fabrication and HARBOR FREIGHT tools (I have a pile of those tape measures also) GO DARKOSTOJ GO!!!

Hah, almost all my tools are harbor freight. Drill press, cheap bandsaw, belt sander, welding mask, etc, etc, etc

Just bought their bandsaw....Works great!

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

I love this build.  Hope to lay my eyes on it in person.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Even though I ordered the brake pads weeks ago, porterfield said they are on backorder. 

The only thing they can get to me in time is the HAWK DTC-60 material.

Anybody have experience with it?  Think it will work OK on this car?

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364 Reply by Fishah (edited by Fishah 2018-09-24 10:18 AM)

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Call OGRacing 1-800-934-9112

Ask for Johhny. If anyone can get you good pads in time, it's him.

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Granite surface plates? I can no longer support this level of cheatonium! It's like watching your kid's T-ball opponent warm up with A-Rod as their batting coach. SO CHEATY!

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

darkostoj wrote:

Even though I ordered the brake pads weeks ago, porterfield said they are on backorder. 

The only thing they can get to me in time is the HAWK DTC-60 material.

Anybody have experience with it?  Think it will work OK on this car?

Well, we run HAWK DTC-60 on our 2700-ish lb. E36 with stock calipers and can get almost 2 full weekends out of the fronts with some pretty aggressive brakers. They are a bit lower in initial bite compared to other compounds, but once you're into the pedal they are very aggressive and modulate well.  On those characteristics they are probably a good fit to be honest, but I don't think anyone has ever raced them on anything approaching 4,000 lbs. and 500HP, so longevity is going to be a big question mark.  You're in unknown territory no matter what, but as I sit here I can't recommend against them.

If I had to make a suggestion I'd say get 3 sets all the way around, at least.

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DTC-60's are what we were using on our Acura. They bite hard, make a nice mess of wheels, but last for a race plus some. BUT, thats on a 2600 lb car, not 4000 pounds or whatever this scales at. Johnny at OG Racing got us into some Performance Friction compounds that are the bees knees, so far.

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368 Reply by Rustyjeep (edited by Rustyjeep 2018-09-24 02:31 PM)

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

darkostoj wrote:

18 DAYS and still have to do A LOT


UMM, we JUST pulled the current motor and trans out of ours last night. I still have to assemble a trans and a motor...before Gingerman.

SIDE NOTE...I may have to contact you for Viper parts in the future, it seems.

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WIRING = FUNNEST

Re-pinned factory harness to ECU

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I recommend calling Carbotech and explain to them what you are racing and for how long.  Then after they ask to clarify for the third time if they heard you correctly, then stop laughing, they can make up whatever you may need.  This was the only way we could get our Mercillac to last a full 8 hours without buying through pads.




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Even though I ordered the brake pads weeks ago, porterfield said they are on backorder. 

The only thing they can get to me in time is the HAWK DTC-60 material.


Anybody have experience with it?  Think it will work OK on this car?

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

^ FWIW, I relied on Carbotech's advice for brakes on the heavy XJ12, followed their advice and had terrible results.  Spent a lot of money trying their different pad compound suggestions, new rotors, test days to bed pads, etc and still had terrible pad transfer problems resulting in wasted race weekends.  They blamed me for all the problems.  Bought ST43 from Porterfield and issues went away.  Googled Carbotech brake shudder and found tons of people who had same issue.  Proceed with them at your own risk.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Yeah I wasn't satisfied with Carbotech either, that's why I recommended calling Johnny. He had amazing PFC pads in stock for my 928 S4 calipers which are a very unique size and extremely rare. I'm much happier with them than my old Carbotech.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

Surprised that porterfield/raysbestos/whoever the parent company is can't get them faster. We called them about pads for our Saab, which no one has ever wanted endurance pads for before, and they added the part number the same day. We got them in a couple weeks tops.

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Re: I bought a Rolls Royce and want to build it.

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^ FWIW, I relied on Carbotech's advice for brakes on the heavy XJ12, followed their advice and had terrible results.  Spent a lot of money trying their different pad compound suggestions, new rotors, test days to bed pads, etc and still had terrible pad transfer problems resulting in wasted race weekends.  They blamed me for all the problems.  Bought ST43 from Porterfield and issues went away.  Googled Carbotech brake shudder and found tons of people who had same issue.  Proceed with them at your own risk.

Their advice was rubbish, i.e. they had no clue how much we were actually asking from the brakes, as soon as I ignored their suggestions and went with the compounds I wanted the problems stopped.


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I could not resist

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Shifter Mounted, next are middle bits.

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Tapping the rear frame rails to hold the Fuel Cell Cage.

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