Re: poll: Should we put new rings in this and run it
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Saab two-stroke...
Saab two-stroke...
Hey! As the owner of a '67 96 I take great offense at that. I'll have you know the last two-strokes were made well before the company changed its name: It's SAAB, not Saab. "Saab" was introduced during the later era of newfangled engines with valves and such.
DirtyDuc wrote:Saab two-stroke...
Hey! As the owner of a '67 96 I take great offense at that. I'll have you know the last two-strokes were made well before the company changed its name: It's SAAB, not Saab. "Saab" was introduced during the later era of newfangled engines with valves and such.
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Actually my first thought was Ford v4.
Borgward or hansa anything.
Actually my first thought was Ford v4.
That would be a pretty good choice, which is to say a pretty bad-good or good-bad choice. Parts availability for the Taunus V4 is okay-ish in the US, thanks largely* to its use in the 95/96/97, but for bonus difficulties the clear winner is the Essex V4.
*I would say "entirely," but there's a persistent claim that its minor use at the time as a US agricultural/industrial/stationary engine also helps keep parts flowing, although I've never actually seen an example of this.
Borgward...
Oh, come on. Where's anyone going to find one of those?
You can find suzuki/geo 1.0 3-cyl engines quite easily. There was one sitting on the ground and the picknpull on half-price day, almost bought it just because I could have picked it up and carried out,
but why do I need three of them when I don't really use the spare I have already.
We were thinking either 3-cyl geo metro (easier) or the "free" 2.8l vr6 sitting on the floor of my garage (likely a bit too wide).
I think we're just gonna get new rings and try to send it. We'll see how it works, and if it is terrible we will reevaluate our life choices.
We're in no rush to make it to a race this year, so we are just taking our time...
What would be an Ill advised engine swap for a Fiat anyway?
Chrysler 2.2?
Pontiac Iron Duke?
Troy wrote:What would be an Ill advised engine swap for a Fiat anyway?
Chrysler 2.2 Turb0?
FTFY
You can find suzuki/geo 1.0 3-cyl engines, ...
but why do I need three of them when I don't really use the spare I have already.
To build a straight 9-cylinder engine, of course.
People swap Fiat engines into Yugos, maybe you should swap a Yugo engine into your Fiat.
What would be an I'll advised engine swap for a Fiat anyway?
What about a 4cyl ecotec?
probably cheaper than other 4cyl donor options (like anything honda, Nissan, or Volvo)
Not sure it would fit but the Honda J30 or equivalent Camry V6 is also pretty cheap.
-g
My vote is Pontiac 2.0 turbo from a Sunbird. All sorts of awesome.
RandolphCarter wrote:Troy wrote:What would be an Ill advised engine swap for a Fiat anyway?
Chrysler 2.2 Variable Nozzle Turb0?
FTFY
I agree, with an additional fix.
Update because I hate threads with no conclusion: all back together now, has good compression and runs nicely. It also feels more gutless than my VW bus. This is a major success.
Got pics of the cylinders after the hone? (Assuming you did hone it again?)
Sorry, didn't take any. We honed it a bit more but it was still pretty sketchy looking.
Did you just use the dingle balls? I really think you should've gone down to Autozone or wherever and rented the flat hone tool. I've been through this process on almost exactly that same engine and the cylinder walls looked similar, but the condition after honing was much better and compression improved significantly with the new rings!
Yea. Did you do oversize pistons though? That's what I was hoping to avoid for budget reasons.
Maybe it'll all blow up. I'm planning to put some miles on it before the ridge next year, which is the race we're shooting for. So I guess we'll see.
Best thing about Lemons:
Proving everyone wrong.
They really arent super zippy in tiptop condition. If you have good compression and it idles nice, run it and watch your oil consumption. It's a momentum car anyway. Check rear wheel bearings for play.
So we registered for the ORP race this weekend. This is the car now. It runs well at the moment, so we'll see how many laps we get in.
And we were putting together our documentation on lemon eligibility, and found these pictures. I forgot how bad it was. Not just rust in the cylinders, there's also mouse poo.
And this was our head resurfacing strategy. It "worked".
So we ended up getting 176 laps at ORP and took the checkered flag. We had a few issues. First was transponder not working because we're idiots and mounted it in a bad spot. Next was a shitty amazon oil pressure sender telling us we had no oil pressure. Day two we thought we were on fire but it was just that oil pressure sender not only failing, but also spewing oil everywhere, so we plugged it. Then the water pump + alternator belt broke because our alternator was falling off. Fixed it and went back out and had no more issues. The car ran well, no oil consumption. It was slow as shit though.
Well.....er...poorly done!
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