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Topic: "Bowed Out" X side bars

Would 'bowed' outward X side bars on the drivers-side be allowed?  NOT the NASCAR-type bars - I know those are fine. 

I have example pix but I cannot seem to figure out how to attach....

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Re: "Bowed Out" X side bars

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Re: "Bowed Out" X side bars

txhandgunner wrote:

Would 'bowed' outward X side bars on the drivers-side be allowed?  NOT the NASCAR-type bars - I know those are fine. 

I have example pix but I cannot seem to figure out how to attach....

I have seen several styles of bowed X door bars in LeMon's.

I'm not a fan of X style, but that said, if I HAD to run with them I would not have them intersect, I would bow one around the other then connect them with a taco shell or similar.  This way you will have two full bars the entire door span.

Just my $.02

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Re: "Bowed Out" X side bars

You'll be alright. Also consider a vertical element to tie the middle of the X down to the floor or door jam. Could be helpful if you were to ever be T-boned.

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Re: "Bowed Out" X side bars

You might consider running a straight bar  from the front down tube to the main hoop down low just above the door jam and tie the "X" to that as well.

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Re: "Bowed Out" X side bars

I run a bowed out drives bars in the TT the car is small and tight to get in and out. The two bar bow out all the way in to the outer door skin. Passed Lemon and Champ many times
https://i.imgur.com/8oyt7Hc.jpg

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Re: "Bowed Out" X side bars

Any feed back on these X bars

https://app.box.com/s/5ibban1r4ihg3v8av84s3ndzd2wjgeub

https://app.box.com/s/yo1pbo0j43qnasd5l7mf9kkp5yqkbvlj

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Re: "Bowed Out" X side bars

jpz3 wrote:

Any feed back on these X bars

https://app.box.com/s/5ibban1r4ihg3v8av84s3ndzd2wjgeub

https://app.box.com/s/yo1pbo0j43qnasd5l7mf9kkp5yqkbvlj


They look a little low IMO,   while the rules say min gap I see alot of cage builders making it right at that number.  In my experience its always much greater than whatever the minimum distance of separation is.  I like to make them level with my thighs at least.  Im not sure what these look like from the side with someone sitting inside

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Re: "Bowed Out" X side bars

Thanks for your comments Nopantsdougie!

Our first car, and we came to the height to help with entry and exit on the driver side.
Our thought was if there was an emergency, we thought to cheat it lower for easier exit.

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Re: "Bowed Out" X side bars

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Re: "Bowed Out" X side bars

With side bars just think about a Crown Vic hitting you broadside in the doors.  Would it protect you?

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Re: "Bowed Out" X side bars

It's a balance between being able to get out quickly and easy and not being crushed by a crown vic.

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Re: "Bowed Out" X side bars

NHSTA give the 2005 Madza 3 sedan three stars for side impact

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2005/MAZD … tings-side

i'll keep welding in bars!