Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

therood wrote:
Bricoop wrote:

Throw checker then all blacks, park everyone in pits
have cars do u-turn coming out of pits. 
have cars stop at start/finish until everyone is out. 
run some laps under yellow
Go green

This is more or less the conceit: Treat it like a black flag all, everyone goes back out in the order they came in with a U-turn.

That said, we're still figuring out the X's and O's, so...

Lay on us all the problems we haven't thought about.

Pit On and Pit Off. Will these locations change? Theoretically don’t need to. If they do change, consider large signs to help keep people straight.

Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

rb92673 wrote:

How do you determine the winner?  Laps on Saturday are a lot longer than laps on Sunday.  I can't see someone on the Lemons staff multiplying Saturday laps by 5 and Sunday laps by 3 for the 100 or so cars on track.

Thought of this on the shower last night, knew it was going to frustrate people. Lol

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Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

chaase wrote:

If they are going to multiply it by anything, it would be Pi.

Thunderhill is a road course, not a circle track.

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Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

Bricoop wrote:

Pit On and Pit Off. Will these locations change? Theoretically don’t need to. If they do change, consider large signs to help keep people straight.

They would need to change,or you would have cars coming out of the paddock onto pit lane crossing in front of cars exiting pit lane heading into the paddock.....and that would not end well.....

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Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

BigBird wrote:
Bricoop wrote:

Pit On and Pit Off. Will these locations change? Theoretically don’t need to. If they do change, consider large signs to help keep people straight.

They would need to change,or you would have cars coming out of the paddock onto pit lane crossing in front of cars exiting pit lane heading into the paddock.....and that would not end well.....

I’m not sure I follow. As long as the on/off are not on top of each other, you don’t need to switch them. It doesn’t matter if pit off is at the front or the rear. Only thing to be aware of is the ability to get free laps if the on/off are on opposite sides of the start finish.

Think of getting on at Sonoma. It doesn’t matter if I get on at the gas pumps or next to the black flag. As long as there is traffic control(as there always is, it wouldn’t be an issue). Those getting on are crossing paths with those who have completed a pit stop.

Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

Eager Beaver wrote:

I don't understand how the original venue just cancels. Did someone forget to make a deposit?

Happened once before many years ago, some Mopar group came along and threw a bunch of money at the track (Spring Mountain?, can't recall) and they took their money and dumped Lemons. IIRC, they took their sweet time returning the deposit which cheesed off Jay to no end.  Which is why I laugh every time someone suggests we go to that track.  The cancellation happened pretty late in the game.  That's how Lemons ended up with a one time only race at Firebird, AZ at the last minute.  That race happened before I even heard about it.

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Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

BigBird wrote:
Bricoop wrote:

Pit On and Pit Off. Will these locations change? Theoretically don’t need to. If they do change, consider large signs to help keep people straight.

They would need to change,or you would have cars coming out of the paddock onto pit lane crossing in front of cars exiting pit lane heading into the paddock.....and that would not end well.....

At least in the North East tracks, switching track on w/track off would work just fine.If you try to use the same track om and track off in both directions, it would mean doing a 180 into live traffic.

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Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

I believe this was the reason the Topeka race was canceled in 2020 as well.  NHRA got covid canceled early in the year and for some reason Heartland Park thought NHRA would bring in more money than a Lemons event later in the year??? 

cheseroo wrote:
Eager Beaver wrote:

I don't understand how the original venue just cancels. Did someone forget to make a deposit?

Happened once before many years ago, some Mopar group came along and threw a bunch of money at the track (Spring Mountain?, can't recall) and they took their money and dumped Lemons. IIRC, they took their sweet time returning the deposit which cheesed off Jay to no end.  Which is why I laugh every time someone suggests we go to that track.  The cancellation happened pretty late in the game.  That's how Lemons ended up with a one time only race at Firebird, AZ at the last minute.  That race happened before I even heard about it.

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Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

HAHAHA

Mr. Unruly wrote:

I figure to reverse direction on Sunday noon, just throw a red flag, everyone stops and then everyone just makes a U turn! Easy Peasy!

Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

Just race this car:

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Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

Eager Beaver wrote:

I don't understand how the original venue just cancels. Did someone forget to make a deposit?

Despite looking like complete idiots, Lemons is and always has been extremely diligent about paying anything and everything asked of us from the tracks. It's one of the reasons tracks like having us.

In this case, someone with deeper pockets went to the track's corporate owners and slapped down money to rent the facility for 12 weeks. Tracks tend to struggle to find renters to show up for a day here and there. It's kind of a no brainer to take that money and not have the track go unrented for probably 30-40 days over a three-month period instead.

Supply and command, you know?

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Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

12 weeks?!? Yeah, I woulda taken the money too...

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Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

duthehustle93 wrote:

12 weeks?!? Yeah, I woulda taken the money too...

seriously....that is a lot of $$$$ to plop down in front of a track.

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Re: Its reverse February at Thunderhill!

If I'm being honest, I'm not disappointed to be racing at Thunderhill again.  Its such a good facility.