51 (edited by Rich von Duisberg 2024-08-28 01:16 AM)

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Ship arrives today. My AirTag tracker says the car in still in England, thanks Apple.

Now we get to the cold reality of the team - ... "can't afford it"... "don't want to drive"... "wife won't let me go"... "can't fly as I am wanted by Interpol" etc etc...

I think we have 4 drivers, maybe 2-3 mechanics, someone called 'Chef' has offered to help, and there's a bloke in New Somethingvilletown who has what looks like 15 minutes in the schedule to fabricate and install a Lemons-friendly cage in a car that has never been sold in the US.

On a personal note, I'm now flying from England to Japan for work, then to Goodwood for the Revival, where I shall wear my skanky old Lemons T-Shirt with pride in the paddock until (inevitably) getting kicked out for misbehaving.

Good times ahead, my friends, good times.

52 (edited by Jimmy 2024-08-28 06:59 AM)

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

In the States with over 30 days left to build / finish the car... You are now better at time management than 90% of the teams...

Looking forward to seeing your machine dominate!

Cordoba

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Slim's car is sitting in NJ awaiting clearance and pickup by me next week! Linden NJ is the pickup spot and I'm hoping yall can assure me I'll only be lightly killed when I'm down there picking it up.

El Capitan of Team Corky
94 Miata transitioning to BRG because she now identifies as a Lotus previously covered in cork as Mazda/Toyo Kogyo tribute then painted like the Queen's coffin
4 time tire raffle winner. (So I got that goin for me which is nice)

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Have your affairs in order

Cordoba

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Jimmy wrote:

Have your affairs in order

Some of our team may or may not have voted for Brexit, so our collective ability to handle important documents in a respectful fashion is questionable...

Car is in a container, in NJ, and Tim* is going to retrieve it this Friday, I think.

*If you're reading this, mate, get off your arse and get cracking!

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Jimmy wrote:

Have your affairs in order


I was actually referring to your Last Will and Testament  - but I'm just kidding  (??) 

North Jersey definitely has its own culture.

Cordoba

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Car is now living in a tent in the woods of NH, having it's interior binned in preparation for the cage and safety gubbins going in. It's absolutely surreal to see this UK car, 3193 miles from where it once sat, being prepped for Hooptiefest.

58 (edited by Rich von Duisberg 2024-09-13 12:43 AM)

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Update; As the Rover 620 was never sold in the US, it has now been registered as a Range Rover 620. I have never owned a Range Rover and now feel as if my social status is somehow elevated. I shall now start parking in disabled bays at the supermarket and driving on the pavement outside schools.

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

^ As you like, but it's nowhere near large and obnoxious enough to cause the appropriate consternation at the supermarket - at least not here in the colonies.
And please be kind when watching our feeble attempts at after-school football (world, not 'murrican) - we're still just playing soccer.

Now, the USWNT - they play _football_.

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Rich von Duisberg wrote:

Update; As the Rover 620 was never sold in the US, it has now been registered as a Range Rover 620. I have never owned a Range Rover and now feel as if my social status is somehow elevated. I shall now start parking in disabled bays at the supermarket and driving on the pavement outside schools.

Acting as the British to American translator for the team- Rich, in ‘’Mericuh we drive on pavement and walk on sidewalks. Y’all walk on pavement for some reason.

This video now will make sense to Americans
https://youtu.be/6c2ZF_Ksv0s?feature=shared

El Capitan of Team Corky
94 Miata transitioning to BRG because she now identifies as a Lotus previously covered in cork as Mazda/Toyo Kogyo tribute then painted like the Queen's coffin
4 time tire raffle winner. (So I got that goin for me which is nice)

61 (edited by Lemon_Newton-Metre 2024-09-13 12:33 PM)

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

^ Diiiiinnnnnggg!!!

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Thanks to Tim, we have have a car without much interior, almost ready for the cage. I hope we retain as much wood and velour as possible. A chap has standards. There's a picture below.

https://www.motorpunk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/image-1024x768.png

The purchase price of £300 (that's 395.81 of your colonial monies) has been offset by finding a penny in the cabin, so the car actually only cost us £299.99 ($US 395.79).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a1/British_one_penny_coin_2016_obverse.png/225px-British_one_penny_coin_2016_obverse.png

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

With this car's lineage (pedigree?), you should have no worries about budget restrictions.

Rover build quality.
F1 / Rock star owner.
Rust.
Shipped from overseas.
Interesting (questionable?) current registration.
Entertaining purchase/shipping/build thread.

I'd bet a large bottle of good Scotch that you will have a free pass on budget.

I very much hope it makes it to more than one Lemons race.  I'd love to see it on the track.

Half Fast Racing      2 New Beetles and a Miata
Class C win, MSR 2023; previously 2x 2nd in C, 3x 3rd in C.
I Got Screwed AND Halloween Meets Gasoline, Sebring 2024
Two Wrongs and a Right, NOLA 2021

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Stan in Bham wrote:

I very much hope it makes it to more than one Lemons race.  I'd love to see it on the track.

Thanks. Not entirely sure what we'll do with this heap post-Hooptiefest, but we feel it'll be an awesome achievement to get it to the circuit and complete just one lap, if we can. Maybe it'll race again elsewhere, dunno.

We think it's also a fitting nod to Slim who was a hugely popular and likeable man by all accounts.

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Rich von Duisberg wrote:

Not entirely sure what we'll do with this heap post-Hooptiefest, ... Maybe it'll race again elsewhere, dunno.


Perhaps a "K it Forward" type of arrangement with a guaranteed seat for you at any race?

Half Fast Racing      2 New Beetles and a Miata
Class C win, MSR 2023; previously 2x 2nd in C, 3x 3rd in C.
I Got Screwed AND Halloween Meets Gasoline, Sebring 2024
Two Wrongs and a Right, NOLA 2021

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Stan in Bham wrote:
Rich von Duisberg wrote:

Not entirely sure what we'll do with this heap post-Hooptiefest, ... Maybe it'll race again elsewhere, dunno.


Perhaps a "K it Forward" type of arrangement with a guaranteed seat for you at any race?

You're assuming that your border control will let us into your country again....

67 (edited by Rich von Duisberg 2024-09-18 07:31 AM)

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Well hello, and another update from team SLiM (that's SLi for the trim level of our Rover 620, and 'M' to make it Slim, the nickname of the ex-F1 driver who owned this car before us, for anyone late to this party).

I recall Lemons has an obscure rule about getting a free pass or black flag deletion or something, if you can get a famous motorsport person to somehow endorse Lemons. So, here's my attempt at that, it's the signature of Brian 'Superhen' Henton, from my meeting with him today. Henton, you may know, was an F1 driver in the 1970s/80s.

https://www.motorpunk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/IMG_76501.jpg

Scruffy signature, but it's definitely his. Here is he outside his house. Tim on our team asks why us Brits always brag about how old and shit everything is in England, so to confirm that, I can tell you that this house is 300 years older than your country, mate;

https://www.motorpunk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/IMG_76521.jpg

Why did I get Brian's signature, in particular? Brian is famous for driving for Lotus F1 and telling Chapman his cars were "f*cking sh1te". He is also famous for being the only driver to score a fastest lap in an F1 race without ever scoring a single point in F1. He did win LOADS elsewhere, to be fair. Also... (still reading?) Brian took the Tyrell seat in F1 which was vacated by Slim Borgudd, and was a friend of our hero. He was also completely unimpressed by the fact we are going to race this bloody awful Rover in Lemons. He also once blew up his mum's toilet as a kid and stole diesel from a Frenchman, amongst many other capers. See his Wiki entry here. He's a fantastic guy and I'll write up my experience on all this malarky in due course.

So - (in)famous F1 driver signs Lemons merch', give us a free black flag pass, please.

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Now why didn't you get him to drive in our series? That is the real question! Cmon Rich!

69 (edited by Jimmy 2024-09-19 04:47 AM)

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Brian has a nice crib.....  He doesn't look like he would be impressed racing and wrenching one of our Hoopties all weekend.  But you never know - looks can be deceiving...  also he might be the life of the Sat potluck with a six pack and 4 or 5 shots of tequila in him.   We should pass the hat and see if we cant buy him a ticket to Boston.

Cordoba

70 (edited by Rich von Duisberg 2024-09-19 06:35 AM)

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Jimmy wrote:

Brian has a nice crib.....  He doesn't look like he would be impressed racing and wrenching one of our Hoopties all weekend.  But you never know - looks can be deceiving...  also he might be the life of the Sat potluck with a six pack and 4 or 5 shots of tequila in him.   We should pass the hat and see if we cant buy him a ticket to Boston.

"Crib" is a 14th Century manor house, with attached village which was abandoned during the plague, and a thousand acres including a small railway station (!) I think his racing days are long behind him. He's into Foxhunting now. sad

---------------------------------------------

In other news; Contemporary review of the Rover 600 in the April 1993 issue of AutoCar free online here - https://ocean.exacteditions.com/issues/ … 2d2326c98a

Text reproduced from AutoCar as follows;

"THE FACT THAT THE ROVER 620i fails to win this test doesn't automatically mean it is a bad car, or even a disappointing one. Nor does it spell disaster for Rover in the showrooms .

What it does prove , however, is that a car needs more than the 620i ' s good looks and merely very competent dynamics to make it right to the top these days. The BMW 3-series proved that years ago and the frighteningly able Mondeo - perhaps the best car Ford has ever made - simply reaffirms it.

Rover shouldn't be disheartened, though, because the 620i has its other vital rival , the Accord, licked . Not to drive -the two cars are to all intents and purposes identical from this point of view but to sit in and to look at and to smell.

Rover 's engineers really only had one task to fulfil with the 600 and that was to make it feel different, feel classier than the Accord on which it is unapologetically based. They hit the bull ' s-eye. It's just a pity there weren 't the financial resources within Rover to let them have a decent crack at the rest of the car. Either way, the 620i comes a respectable third.

The Audi comes nowhere in this test- not because it is such an awful car but because it is both the most expensive and, by a wide margin , the least able. Which leaves but one question unanswered : which is the best?

One thing is certain: anyone faced with the predicament of choosing between either the BMW or the Mondeo knows that mid-size motoring doesn 't get any better than this .

The heart says choose the more stylish , more obviously desirable BMW, but in the end the Mondeo ' s completeness as an all-rounder and its superior practicality- it costs £2000 less and can carry four adults in far greater comfort for starters - pounds the 318i into submission , and the most honourable second place we can remember. The Mondeo rules on.

7 April 1993 Autocar & Motor 47"

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Mkotzias wrote:

Now why didn't you get him to drive in our series? That is the real question! Cmon Rich!

Haha, thanks Manny. I have a list of rogues who I'd love to form a Lemons team with. It includes Nikita Mazepin, Randy Lanier (I swapped emails with him!), Pastor Maldonado, Ken Schrader, Vic Lee....

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Car now with Dougie NoPants, surely a made-up name, and he is installing a Lemons-friendly roll cage in SLim.

Time booked off work, RV/Camper thing booked for the Lemons weekend, now looking for a cheap AirBnB in Manchester for the few days before the race to use as a base.

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Welcome to the chaos from one team that's raced a Rover to another.

1992 Saturn SL2 (retired) - Elmo's Revenge -  Class B winner, Heroic Fix winner x2
1969 Rover P6B 3500S(sold) - Super G-Rover - I.O.E Winner, Class C Winner
1996 Saturn SW2 - Elmo's Revenge (reborn!), Saturn SL1  Dazzleshipm Class C x2 and IOE winner
1974 AMC Javelin - Oscar's Trash heap - IOE,”Organizer's Choice" and "I got Screwed" award winner

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

chaase wrote:

Welcome to the chaos from one team that's raced a Rover to another.

Thanks man.

And... I see that pit garages are available from Monday, and I am desperate to ensure this rapidly-decaying heap is supported from somewhere dry and tidy, as opposed to last year when it pissed down and we hammered away at a knackered Miata under a blustering tent.

Anyone want to share garage space? We need help.

75 (edited by Rich von Duisberg 2024-09-30 05:31 AM)

Re: Ex-F1 drivers own Rover 620SLi road car, destined for NH. Yes, really.

Main hoop now in. A grown-up reckons we don't need to weld a bar in behind the dash as there's one there, or something, I guess I'll find out when one of our drivers inevitably rams something at speed. Or Lemons' Tech rumbles us*.

https://www.motorpunk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/interior-weld.jpg

*Joking aside, we're doing a proper job on the safety stuff, because we're not only slow, but we're also cowards.