Topic: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

After much careful consideration, in-person discussions with the Lemons staff, and talks with the co-drivers, I have decided that, when the car is finally driveable, it will go to a Lemons race...
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...as a Pace/Parade lap car.

I know that a great many people will be saddened not to see it being properly hooned on the track. The bottom line is that I bought what appeared to be a homemade automotive oddity on Ebay, expecting a cobbled-but-hella-cool hooptie. When it was delivered, I discovered I'd purchased a stellar, one-off exotic car of utterly amazing craftsmanship and mind-numbing ingenuity! It's unfinished, and there's lots still to be completed, but in order to preserve the only model in existence, I cannot bring myself to endanger it in an actual crapcan race. One simple mishap could destroy thousands of dollars worth of extremely-difficult-to-duplicate heavy fiberglass panels, custom light lenses, and unique suspension parts. That's IF no one blows the exotic twin 12A rotary engines up, or cooks the complicated and difficult to repair inboard brakes.

I have been really torn about this for a while. I didn't want to seem like a scheming fraud who merely used would-be drivers as a cheap loan source in some bait-and-switch game. My reputation as a Christian and a stand-up individual is important to me. I spoke with the other drivers, and offered to either refund them with interest, or let them race one of my other cars, while alternating in the octocar as needed for pace laps during full course yellows. All but one is staying on board, and he totally understands and refused the interest on the refund. He just doesn't really have time to be a part of this right now, as much as he'd like to.

Being a true car guy and genuine racing fanatic at heart, it wasn't easy for me to change the plan, but I think it's the right thing to do in this case. The genius who spent years (and nearly $100k) creating this masterpiece might roll over in his grave if it was crashed while being flogged in a $500 car race. I prefer to preserve, restore, and document its existence, then pass it along to someone with much deeper pockets, and use the money to pay off some debt. Its value is many times what I paid for it already, based on responses and offers I've received since posting pictures of it upon its arrival. Perhaps I will send it to Barrett Jackson upon its completion, or maybe Jay Leno et. al. will make me an offer I can't refuse. Either way, I'm going to do my best to finish it the way I imagine the builder wanted it to be.

I hope this community understands. I think that you will, once you've studied it in person. I'm now shooting for Summit Point in June, and I'll take any help I can get in getting it finished by then! I will continue to provide updates here, and on www.speedycop.com

-Speedycop

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

This is entirely sensible, perfectly reasonable, and an excellent fate for the car.  Despite all that, it's still a good decision.  I agree and wish you the best with it.

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

I don't think that anyone doubts your intentions.  Really, those of us that have met you in person can attest to it, and everyone else has been told that you have achieved a level of Lemons crazy that mere mortals cannot hope to get to.  More than likely, a very smart move.  Hopefully I can see the car in action, but if not, enjoy it.  But you have set the bar very high.  I'm sure the next one will be incredible.  Slant 12?

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

As much as it was a difficult decision it was the right one.

From my viewpoint  there was lots more to that car then was being advertised or could be seen, if it had been a bit closer to me I may have been a interested non lemoneer bidder.

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

Team Infinniti wrote:

if it had been a bit closer to me I may have been a interested non lemoneer bidder.

I was blessed to be able to have it shipped 12 hours to my door by an insured shipper in an enclosed car trailer for $650 plus a $70 tip. It would have cost me more in fuel to go get it!

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

davisriley wrote:

I'm sure the next one will be incredible.  Slant 12?

Hey, if I can find two running slant sixes cheaply, sure! What I lack in mechanical engineering knowledge I make up for in sheer dumb willpower.

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7 (edited by Team Infinniti 2011-03-04 06:33 PM)

Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

$650 WOW!!! Shipping was my biggest hangup, glad it went to someone(you)that has documented its wonders publicly rather then squirreled away never to be heard of again.

I payed that much to get a running Corvair open shipped from Ohio to S Fl. I hope you saved his #

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

Yeah, it was a lot of hassle to find a cheap shipper, but eventually I found someone who had an open spot for a return haul on a two-car trailer (HJM Shipping was the shipping locator service who agreed to waive their fees, and hooked me up with the shipper).

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Future Fleet: 1957 Ford Prefect 1942 Buick 1959 Bugeye Project GLCOAT

Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

I personally just want to see the thing running, out and about at a Lemons race where it will be appreciated, not necessarily IN a Lemons race (although that would have been un-toppable).

I think you rock. As the true genius of the machine became more apparent, the plan changed accordingly. And that's about as honorable as it gets.

But promise us it will at least get a few laps at a track day, on film? Wearing a dumb costume?

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10 (edited by Speedycop 2011-03-05 06:18 AM)

Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

Oh, it needs a few hot laps for sure, at some venue. I really want the Top Gear gang to drive it, though Clarkson won't fit with the lexan T-Top/window things in. After all, Top Gear magazine is already gonna feature it! I dunno about the dumb costume, but maybe I'll reach out to the Hoff, and see if he wants to take it for a spin. I'll need some JC Whitney red sequencing LEDs. If not, maybe Val Kilmer or Christian Bale will, though I was always more partial to Micheal Keaton in that role for some reason.

BTW, I see that I have successfully deluded you into believing that I rock. Mission accomplished! Amazing what I was able to do with just a couple thousand hours of free time, a welder, a plasma cutter, and a credit card. No, I say YOU rock, sir, for bringing back the Bee when the rest of us thought it was done for.

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

Don't worry about your reputation; plans change, especially if all the information isn't in yet when they were made.

You just made it much more important to me to make it to the Summit Point event.  I want to sit in the thing.  Please?

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

Anyone who wants to sit in it and make vroom vroom sounds will be permitted to. It will be a hands-on display all weekend.

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

Absolutely the right decision Speedy.  We all want to see it run and drive on a racetrack but there is no need for it to actually race.  Had it been IN a race, it would have been a rolling chicane anyways.  It's just too big and too heavy to dice with the rest of the pack. 

Finish the car, get it to a Lemons race and WOW the crowd by taking a few hot laps.  The put Jay in the driver's seat and let him pace the race.  Everybody wins.

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14 (edited by Hoonatic Racing 2011-03-05 12:41 PM)

Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

Speedycop wrote:

What I lack in mechanical engineering knowledge I make up for in sheer dumb willpower.

Ditto

On the subject of GLCOAT, i can not think of a can not think of a better man to be the caretaker of such a creation. Although the rest of the world (and some Lemons people) think you are an "utter madman," your judgment is wise. I hope to see it as a traveling spectacle some day. It would be nice if it made it to a couple of races across the US.

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

Hoonatic Racing wrote:

It would be nice if it made it to a couple of races across the US.

It would be great to see it RACE across the US, Canonball style.

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

Jeff, all of us on Team Speedycop are used to being rolling chicanes... except the Linoln... and maybe the Toyota/Lancia (which totally blew our minds at how well it performed)..

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

"Sparky" Pete wrote:
Hoonatic Racing wrote:

It would be nice if it made it to a couple of races across the US.

It would be great to see it RACE across the US, Canonball style.

Throw an aircooled VW motor in it and claim it's a kit car

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18 (edited by sbarton 2011-03-09 03:08 PM)

Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

Sucks you're not racing it, but totally understandable.  I still want to see this thing do a hot lap though.  Just be careful not to high center the thing cresting over T5 at NJMP, lol.  Think Jay can give you a couple minutes of free track time to see what it can do? 

-Scott

Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

I'm sure Jay wants to see it driven on-track as much as anybody, but NJ is too soon. I'm shooting for Summit Point. With 4 axles and only 17' in total length, it won't high center very easily, even with a mere couple inches of ground clearance. It only looks super long because the roof is just below waist-high, and it's extremely (85") wide!

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

I think the GLOAT should be the official face of Lemons.

Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

I look forward to being paced by such a "car" at Capitol Offense.

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towerymt wrote:

I look forward to being paced by such a "car" at Capitol Offense.

Yeah. We all get to stop dead while Speedycop and his co-conspirators negotiate the hook.

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

See you at Summit!  My daughter will probably want to sit in it haha.

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Re: Future of the G.L.C.O.A.T.

"Sparky" Pete wrote:
Hoonatic Racing wrote:

It would be nice if it made it to a couple of races across the US.

It would be great to see it RACE across the US, Canonball style.

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