Topic: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

Someone thought it would be funny to get into people cars on Saturday night and cause our cars to run poorly by adding water to the gas tank, pulling spark plug wires or draining the battery overnight...

I've heard of four separate instances so far.
Someone pulled our spark plug wire from our #4 cylinder.

We found it during our driver change two hours in.

What, do we have to hire security or put our cars/fuel jugs under lock?
Really disappointing. The race is hard enough.


KT

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Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

I wasn't there but there is good chance it came off on its own otherwise if you didn't notice your car was missing a cylinder for two hours......

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Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

Someone powered up our car, causing dead battery Sun AM. Fortunately we carry a spare battery.
The car was tarped, so they really wanted to cause ... mischief. I too heard of water in fuel tanks and cars being turned sideways in the pit (WTF?)

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Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

Water in the fuel sucks, that is really bad if it really happened.  Also couldn't it be that someone on your team was testing something and accidentally left it on overnight?

Our battery kill switch has a removable key which we do not leave in the car over night so that unauthorized people can't turn it on.

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We chatted about this extensively during Trekkor's webcast.  There was lots of speculation about the water in the T GT's tank. but it certainly sounded like there was no chance of it happening due to rain, moisture, mislabeled jugs, etc.  Eyesore's Miata was turned 90° from where they left it and the dead battery was not likely to happen due to human error leaving something on.  The only one I can see happening by accident is the spark plug wire on the ZX2 since they did some engine work Saturday night. 

If and when the perps are caught, and if they are racers and not hooligan spectators, there should be an automatic lifetime ban from entering races, attending races, or even joining the LeMons forum.

BTW, the official name is Watergasgate.  I can't remember who claimed rights to naming it on the webcast, but I'm sure they'll chime in.

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Tullamore wrote:

Our battery kill switch has a removable key which we do not leave in the car over night so that unauthorized people can't turn it on.

Also remove your key so that nobody can steal it, would really be bad if you couldn't power up your car the next morning.

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Not cool.  We leave the car unlocked, we leave the trailer unlocked, and I have never worried about anything.  We loan tools with abandon, and I don't think twice.  I really hope this doesn't spread.

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Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

We noticed right away. We decided to keep running instead of coming in.
We were taking advice online during our streaming video's online chat feature.

We were pitted right next to the car that got the water in the fuel tank.
Spark plug wires don't fall off. ( or do they? )


When we came in for our driver change, I checked every electrical connection I could get to.
When I found the loose plug wire, I was glad we fixed the problem, but now I'm really let down by someone's conduct.


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Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

When we finished our night's work, we tested the car.
It ran great.

Sunday morning, the driver was complaining of power loss on pit out.


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Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

Someone stole our fire extinguisher Oh the day friday in the middle of the day I think of all the lemons guys family never lock anything. talk to the judges make it back east there was a lot of theft.
The eyesore miata was turned sidewaysby the Spin and out guys in Good fun I saw them do it that's a good times

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Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

trekkor wrote:

...but now I'm really let down by someone's conduct...

Disappointing. An actual prank someone would own up to.

Water in the gas? That's not even close to funny. Someone stupid enough to try that is going to get caught more often than not and take a serious beating.

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Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

trekkor wrote:

Spark plug wires don't fall off. ( or do they? )

sure they do...why not?

my old Protege spit a sparkplug out of the engine on the middle of the Ohio Turnpike once.  i learned how to break into my car using a coat hanger that day.

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Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

Turning the car 90 degrees from where the team parked it, that's a harmless prank, all the rest is really more cheating than pranking.

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Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

Water in the gas tank?

Wasn't it raining that weekend?

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Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

sublimate wrote:

Water in the gas tank?

Wasn't it raining that weekend?

I believe the rain stopped Saturday afternoon and the car was covered overnight from what I read.  The tank had 2.5 gallons of water in it Sunday morning.  They checked all of their gas cans and none had any water in them.

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16 (edited by OverStimulated 2011-03-28 12:55 PM)

Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

fabtoys wrote:

The eyesore miata was turned sidewaysby the Spin and out guys in Good fun I saw them do it that's a good times

Actually, it wasn't Spin N Out, it was us...  Team SheenMachine...  Certainly harmless intentions though it seems less so in light of the other "pranks"!

Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

That is why we lock the car and all our stuff in our trailer at night, better safe than sorry. 

Someone did put cheese whiz on our RV and trailer door handles, not the same magnatude but still sucked to clean up Sunday morning.

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We agonized over all the theories of how the water got in the Model T GT's fuel cell.  We ran all the scenarios because we really didn't want to believe that someone would do something like that.  But, unfortunately, the only theory that worked given the evidence was that water went directly into the fuel cell.  Hearing that other cars were messed with overnight makes this sound more probable, now.  Sorry to the others who were f'd with, but I am relieved to hear that it seems like this was just random crapdone by incredibly stupid people.  I was really worried we were singled out.  We lost a couple laps until we diagnosed the issue and then drained enough fuel out into a drain pan to get mostly past the water.  We got on to track late and the car ran like shit for the first 15 minutes.

I've been going to autocrosses and racetracks for about 20 years now and have never had anything stolen or messed with.  This is super, super, super disappointing.

I wish the guilty parties good luck in racing and life, because karma is a bitch.

Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

It sounds like more than just the T-GT was messed with.....totally unacceptable!!!  I am all for good hearted pranks like turning Eyesores car sideways....thats funny and harmless...but dead batteries, pulled plug wires and especially water in gas is NOT COOL..... 

I hope the culprits are found and suitably booted for life from lemons!  There is no place for sabotage in racing & when our cars are already challenged in the reliability area, why make things worse....

I am impressed with fastbears response...very cool and mature....I don't think I would have handled it this well.....  karma can be a very cruel mistress!!!!

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I'm kinda hurt, honestly. No other way I can say it. I don't know if it was random or we were targeted. As many times as I've seen other racers chip in elbows deep to help competetors and even done so myself, it's something I have a hard time wrapping my head around.
Despite this happening, I had had a great time, as did the rest of the team. It could have been worse, and we still have a car to race and I had a way to get home. Good enough for me.

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dtfastbear wrote:

I wish the guilty parties good luck in racing and life, because karma is a bitch.

+1

that is some bush-league nonsense.

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22 (edited by Crab Spirits 2011-03-28 03:18 PM)

Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

Plug wires can pop off by themselves.
-Installer not pushing the wire onto the plug until positive lock is achieved
-Bumped during service
-Leaking plug blowing wire out of plug well
-Short boot on incorrect wires pulling the wire out of the well under vibration (Had this happen many times on an EJ25)

Another thing that occurred to me regarding WATERGASGATE is water in the track's tank. Did you guys fill from it? I want to think this is mother nature pulling one on you guys because.

A.It was pouring during the weekend.
B.This is California, where it never rains. When it rains, I imagine you guys get some surprises.
C.I imagine a gang of people running around with water jugs (at least 2.5 gallons worth for at least 1 car) checking whose fuel cells are easily accessed, through a paddock filled with people, sabotaging cars unseen. I imagine this, and it just doesn't add up. Also they would have to have some really f-ed motives that I don't want to believe people in this series have.

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Doing any of the above (besides the 90 degree turn) will get you shot in Texas.

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Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

In desert racing with Best in the Desert after tech your car is put in impound with security but we still used to duct tape our gas caps and doors That way we could tell if someone messed with it. We had $15k to $500k cars there.

KARMA is a bitch and she visit. Those people later.

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Re: Paddock car sabotage overnight at Sears...WEAK!!

Coming up on our car on Sunday morning and finding it in a different orientation than we left it was funny and we appreciated the good-natured prank. 

When we heard about the other stuff, though... Not cool.  Thankfully, the Model T has top notch mechanics aside from being unbelievably driven, so the team was still able to make it out to the track before the green flag flew, but they still missed their position on the grid.  That "prank" could have cost a lesser team their day or their engine. 

I just don't understand the maliciousness of messing with another team's car.  We're all here to have fun and compete and I think that 99.9% of people at the track abide by that simple idea.  I want to believe that there is a simple explanation for what happened because I hate to think that one of our fellow racers would stoop to sabotage or think that it is funny to potentially ruin someone's weekend.

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