Kershaw People's Curse (Page 3 of 3)

Bonedriver wrote:

...But then if there is nothing about the car that's "in the spirit of Lemons" - with nothing but a number and some duct tape on it... then yeah... it would be easier to vote for it to be crushed.

Good point.  This is the only thing that bugged me about the RX7.  They put zero effort into a theme.  At least with the races at CMP, I can't think of a team that has put less effort into being in the spirit of Lemons that the White Lightning team.

Doesn't mean they should be crushed, but it made it to where I didn't care if they were.

and what kind of bribe did you offer those wasps anyway....................very effective

I agree.  Why even have the people vote if you don't like the results?  Fair or unfair, the people had spoken and the curse should have been carried out.  In the end I guess we all need to learn and accept this Jay's race and he can do what ever the hell he wants...and he did.

Disney wrote:

My Take:

Look, If the car was an obvious Cheat, the judges would have caught it and assigned laps. They didn't. I checked the car out. Other than internal engine mods, the car wasn't a cheat. It really did have stock suspension under it unlike the Cheater Cops who had $1000+ worth of suspension mods in the car. The Probe? Obvious Cheats. Lightning McQueen? RCR sponsored, Lingenfetler built engine still couldn't overcome race strategy.

Dude, did you ever look under our car? Anyone is welcome to, anytime. The judges did. Our Lincoln has ALL STOCK CONTROL ARMS, STOCK SWAY BARS, CHEAPO ($25 each) MONROE FRONT SHOCKS, AND STOCK BUSHINGS. We even have all stock brakes. Our mods? Drilled a hole outside the stock camber adjustment to get more negative camber (free), used '03 Cobra takeoff rear shocks with like 35k ($100 shipped for the pair, thanks Ricardo!), $15 Autozone/Energy Suspension universal rear sway bar endlinks, and Vogtland 1.6" drop springs ($205 shipped for the set). I made the perches myself, with scrap metal.

$50+$100+$15+$205=$370
$370 is not over $1000.
Counting the stock, NON-POLYURETHANE bushings we replaced in the front end (fronts are $18 from RockAuto), since Stafford, we were WAAAAAAAAY under budget this last race. Yeah, we finished 10th overall in Stafford. Did you notice we were ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY LAPS DOWN on the leader? I don't even know where we finished at CMP last weekend, but we did less than 200 laps, due to blowing the head gaskets and cooking the motor. We had to push it on the trailer.

We had a $200 residual after a poor performance at our first race, and an even lower one after our second. When Nick Pon found out I had bought an MR2 for just under $500 to replace the Lincoln, he seemed really disappointed. Anybody can go fast in a sports car. We decided to stick with our unique, underdog approach, and keep the only Lincoln Mark VIII ever to run Lemons going. The Schumaker Taxi guys were more than willing to pick up the MR2 from us as a parts car. Jay knew we needed to improve on this:
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/8183722/a … rkviii.jpg

So, we turned it into this:
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/8183722/a … 8swat2.jpg

At Stafford, he saw the 1-2" of fore-and-aft movement in each of our front wheels, due to the missing bushings. He was gracious enough to give us a low residual, to help us bring the car back. We were able to do that well under budget. We had bought a 5 speed for $150 to put in, but even with a $30 used GT clutch, and LOW prices on everything to put it in ($50 pedals, etc.), we would have been over the $500 limit. Instead, we opted to keep the slower automatic, and wait to install the 5 speed until we could do it under budget. We made the car faster by gutting nearly 400 pounds out of it after Stafford. WE REFUSE TO CHEAT. I don't care what you believe, that's a fact.

How about getting the facts straight before making up random valuations of suspension mods and accusing others of cheating? I looked at the Probe and talked to the guys. I don't think they cheated at all, but they should have told the judges what they did to the car, and shouldn't have thrown dirt on suspension parts. They learned the hard way. You guys need to strip that SVX down any way you can if you want it to go faster.

Why did you say we cheated in this thread, and say this in another:

Disney wrote:

Ronman,

Excellent work on those shots!!!  You are to Photography what your car is to LeMon's, totally awesome on the cheap! hahaha

Nice work, and great shots!

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you're right jim , along with the older drivers , it helps to have a couple of teenage drivers , that will listen to us older guys (very rare) and still drive with no fear ! i'm very proud of all of our drivers , both old & young.   gasguy/fender lizard...racingralph