Re: Which themes have been done to death?

Daniel, have you read up on the 2E?  The car was an automatic so that the driver could operate a third pedal which controlled the wing.  When the driver pushed down the "clutch" pedal on the straights, the wing flattened out, reducing drag.  This same idea could work for a crapcan racer.  The giant wing could be used for both braking and cornering.  The problem is that it takes a skilled driver to forget everything he knows about controls and push the "clutch" pedal on the straights.  I'd forget what to do and have that wing flapping up and down constantly.

So what you're saying is that it needs to be done on a manual transmission car so the driver has four pedals to choose from?

I had suggested to another team a few years ago to use air cylinders.  As the drag built up on the wing it would compress the air in the cylinder/tank combo and flatten out the wing at speed.  I happen to have a pile of air cylinders...and a compressor from a yank tank with rear air ride.  I can make you good deal on the parts.

If you're using drag to force it down, how are you making the car any faster when you're trying to reduce drag? Why not just mount your wing on bungee cords (besides causing Evil John conniption fits)?

Skid Marks did something like this for Autobahn.

http://www.murileemartin.com/UG/LIL11/LIL11-UG-0881.jpg
Looks like a smaller version of Sensory Assault's plywood airbrake.http://www.murileemartin.com/UG/LDTX11/LDTX11-UG-548.html

Re: Which themes have been done to death?

has a 6 million dollar man theme been done yet?  GENTLEMEN.  WE CAN REBUILD HIM.  WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY.   ...so i'm guessing it has.

Re: Which themes have been done to death?

So the cop theme may be overused, but I have to ask if anyone's ever used a '74 Dodge Monaco in Mount Prospect, IL colors. Bonus points for a huge megaphone bolted to the roof, of course.

I read somewhere else that someone had done Murph and the Magictones' Cadillac, so this may have been done as well.

Re: Which themes have been done to death?

SpaceFrank wrote:

So the cop theme may be overused, but I have to ask if anyone's ever used a '74 Dodge Monaco in Mount Prospect, IL colors. Bonus points for a huge megaphone bolted to the roof, of course.

I read somewhere else that someone had done Murph and the Magictones' Cadillac, so this may have been done as well.

Murph and the Magictones was a Cutlass Ciera run by BoB and jduffy here on the forum:

http://www.murileemartin.com/LC10/UG/Le … 0-010.html

IIRC, that car is being re-themed for Road America.

I don't think a GOOD Blues Brothers theme has been done, but any car from the movie would be awesome. The judges love peripheral/somewhat minor cars from car movies:

- The Illinoisnaziwagens (Ford LTD and Pinto)

http://www.inbrockton.com/forum/uploads/EdZeppelin/images/2009-04-19_190203_Nazis_Car_Flying_BluesBrothers_Fark.jpg

- Pontiac Grand Prix (Just add RPG, M16, flamethrower, RC controller/detonator, and nail salon ad)

http://www.imcdb.org/i001735.jpg

- Ford 250 camper (or something approximate) from Bob's Country Bunker and/or The Good Ol' Boys

http://www.imcdb.org/i024296.jpg

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I think there are alot of overdone themes that have some good peripheral car themes that could be done.

Dukes of hazard - general lee way overdone, boss hogs car on the other hand, you show up in a big white caddy convertible with bull horns, one guy dressed up in a white suit the rest as deputies, judges would be happy.

Smokey and the bandit - bandit been done, but how about a bood buford t justice or big enis little ennis themes.

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BoB wrote:

Smokey and the bandit - bandit been done, but how about a bood buford t justice or big enis little ennis themes.

What are the chances that one of these old Pontiac Grand Lemans still exists?
http://www.bandittransamclub.com/gallery/var/albums/JeffreyWright/100_3587.jpg?m=1329786046

Bonus points for running the car with no roof.
http://www.ponchogarage.com/images/Pontiacs_in_the_movies/Smokey_and_the_bandit/Poor%20Buford.jpg

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Judge Phil wrote:
Mulry wrote:

I've wanted to do a Deliverator's car theme for a long time, with contact patches the size of a fat lady's thighs, but my teammates keep telling me that it's too niche and nobody would get it. For the Texas races they might be right, but I'm betting for the NorCal races it would get a lot of knowing looks. The density of Stephenson fans has to be higher out closer to Silicon Valley than around these here parts.

I think a Pizza Deliverator theme would be excellent, especially if you rig up Uncle Enzo's countdown clock in the cockpit and bring some pizza to the BS inspection. I'm a huge Stephenson fan (though I've sort of slowed down as I slog my way through the Baroque Cycle), and I'll betcha Jay, Nick, and/or Jeff are too.

Most of our team has read Snow Crash so we've also discussed the Deliverator theme. I think it's just because some of us love the phrase "redneck katana."

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Re: Which themes have been done to death?

A Pizza Deliverator theme should be done before the oft-postponed Snow Crash movie comes out and ruins everything.

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We are going with a unicorn theme if we get in. Not sure if its been done yet but it is good for the laughs.

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Andjo wrote:

We are going with a unicorn theme if we get in. Not sure if its been done yet but it is good for the laughs.

Pink Motherfucking Unicorns... yeah, that one is taken.

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Re: Which themes have been done to death?

the Rood:  "Some sources have said that Rally Baby owns a heavily fortified underground ranch where they horde unicorns, which are butchered at the perfect age of six years and two months, ground up into a fine powder and ingested like common street drugs by drivers just before their stints, thereby giving them the powers of a Dark Sorcerer Rockin' an Eight Ball in a Thunderstorm." {{Citation Needed}}

Today 4:31pm


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Re: Which themes have been done to death?

'effing Rally Baby... someone has to put a stop to those unicorn abusing bastards.  <grumbles something about rising prices of unicorn powder>

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Re: Which themes have been done to death?

has anyone ever done a Pussy Wagon from Kill Bill?  Are pickups legal? I was looking on Craigslist today and there seem to be a lot of pickups available (in Texas, shocking I know).  It wouldn't be too difficult to turn THIS:

http://images.craigslist.org/3M83Na3Hd5r75K95J7d65803f93b3af331cd1.jpg

Into THIS:

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/features/cars/29.jpg

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Re: Which themes have been done to death?

Has been done, but not with an actual pickup.

Also Pickups are legal and there have been quiet a few of the smaller ones run over the years even a few full size, including one that had its body on backwards.  Some Full size can go over the weight and would need a waiver.  An S10 shouldn't have any problems though.

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Re: Which themes have been done to death?

Ah damn, I was hoping it hadn't been done.

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Pretty much everything and every car has been done.  Doesn't mean you and your guys can't still go out and do it well and have fun.

I believe the team name that did it was Kill Phil, you should be able to do a google search and look up picture of them.

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Re: Which themes have been done to death?

BoB wrote:

Pretty much everything and every car has been done.

pretty much every movie reference to every obvious movie car has been done.

there are still several oblique auto references available.


do you have a 80s mustang and a bicycle?
http://wac.9ebf.edgecastcdn.net/809EBF/ec-origin.philly.barstoolsports.com/files/2012/09/goonies-car-drag.jpg

not sure what to do with your cherokee and want to get your mom in on the action?
http://news.autocan.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Jeep_Goonies.jpg

there are probably a dozen little known transformers and virtually ALL of the go-bots to choose from
I think all the cars from MASK are still ripe.

already have a citation? just get a fake uzi, hornrim glasses, a briefcase and a buzz cut:
http://kzconcepts.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/fall-d-fens.jpg

we're still waiting for a k-onvertible:
http://pics.imcdb.org/0is28/005944.4429.jpg

got a four light firebird and a tight white leisure suit?
http://content.worldcarfans.co/2007/11/medium/9071109.004.1M.jpg

::looking at a rulebook from another race series:: "this thing reads like stereo instructions":
http://imaginarycinema.com/images/burton/normal_beetlejuice020.jpg

Spank's Corvegge and a powerful stereo system:
http://www.imcdb.org/i030033.jpg


so yeah, there are plenty of General Lees, Bandits, Deathmobiles, and other star cars, but there are several sorta-iconic movie cars that would just need some good costumes and acting.

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I wish there was a legal way to do this one:
http://4.images.spike.com/images/shows/car-lot-rescue/season-1/articles/RM-14-DuneBuggy.JPG?quality=0.91

Re: Which themes have been done to death?

The only Lemons theme that has been overdone is SHITTY Lemons THEMES. 

Honestly, if you do your theme really, really, really well, who cares if it's been done before?

I can't remember ever thinking "another one of those??"  But I can definitely remember thinking "what the hell is that and why is it so halfassed?"

Re: Which themes have been done to death?

KIDA26 wrote:

has anyone ever done a Pussy Wagon from Kill Bill?  Are pickups legal? I was looking on Craigslist today and there seem to be a lot of pickups available (in Texas, shocking I know).

If you can bring along Uma Thurman I'm sure they'd love to have another Pussy Wagon.

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Re: Which themes have been done to death?

rconti wrote:

The only Lemons theme that has been overdone is SHITTY Lemons THEMES. 

Honestly, if you do your theme really, really, really well, who cares if it's been done before?

I can't remember ever thinking "another one of those??"  But I can definitely remember thinking "what the hell is that and why is it so halfassed?"

I walk around the paddock and think .... Is that a theme or just a color sceme?   

Also (and rconti I'm sure you will agree) ... it ok to have themes that have been done or are just paint and costumes ... if you change it every now and then!! 

There are some pretty good themes that are done ok but I've seen the same guy's in the same car, in the same costumes, for three years now ... come on people update that shit!  ... At least add something!

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Re: Which themes have been done to death?

Anyone done the #3 rental car from Jackass?

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Yah! Jackass themes! Build a shopping cart outta any ol Honda / Crappy tuner car...... use rear spoiler as the cart handle... Just gotta find a ramp....and a lake....

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psychoboy wrote:

we're still waiting for a k-onvertible:
http://pics.imcdb.org/0is28/005944.4429.jpg

Watching this movie right now and was wondering if It had been done. I was looking closely and it is actually a Turbo model as well smile

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Re: Which themes have been done to death?

KIDA26 wrote:

has anyone ever done a Pussy Wagon from Kill Bill?

Yup, B-Team has run the "Kill Phil" theme on their E30 for a while.

http://24hoursoflemonswiki.com/images/e/ee/B-Team_kill-phil.jpg

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