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Also, for fans of the old Down On The Street series I did on Jalopnik: it lives on at MurileeMartin.com!

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And I've starred all the Lemons racers who have asked for Jalopnik commenter stars.

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Something certainly seems to have changed abruptly over at jalop, last week the comments were the usual entertaining and intelligent writing, this week all of a sudden bang, they're full of flaming idiocy and willful sexism. I'm *pretty* sure it wasn't always like that and I just missed it?

One day, Mister ffffffffffffffffox!

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Oooh, star me star me!

http://jalopnik.com/comment/25265217/

Just another crappy BMW and moto-powered MR2: http://www.facebook.com/BlackIronRacing
Gnome money, Gnome problems. (RIP) http://www.facebook.com/MetroGnomeRacing

55 (edited by gielamonster 2010-09-30 02:38 PM)

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Also just unfriended Jalopnik on FB. The site has gone seriously downhill in the past few months. All of the NSFW posts and photos and even titles are a big turnoff. I don't want to read the word PENIS on any website I use to browse at work. I frequently have this disgusting naked dude/fish thing in a banner on the left side of the screen. Its really disturbing.The quality of the commentariat has also dropped off significantly.

Just another crappy BMW and moto-powered MR2: http://www.facebook.com/BlackIronRacing
Gnome money, Gnome problems. (RIP) http://www.facebook.com/MetroGnomeRacing

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I never got starred.
Somehow now I don't really care.

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gielamonster wrote:

Also just unfriended Jalopnik on FB. The site has gone seriously downhill in the past few months. All of the NSFW posts and photos and even titles are a big turnoff. I don't want to read the word PENIS on any website I use to browse at work. I frequently have this disgusting naked dude/fish thing in a banner on the left side of the screen. Its really disturbing.The quality of the commentariat has also dropped off significantly.

agreed; the comments were one of the great things about the site, but are quickly going downhill.  not quite at CNN level yet, but getting there.

at this point i feel like i'm wandering through a big crowd of strangers until i see someone with a red heart, and it's like "oh, hey!"

mike - Schumacher Taxi Service
12+-time loser
"Winner" - We Got Screwed, NJMP '11

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YesIFit wrote:

Maybe not quite on the same level, but makes me think of this...

"They came first for Wes,
and I didn't speak up because I don't ride a motorcycle.

Then they came for Sam,
and I didn't speak up because I didn't really read Jalopnik for the car reviews.

Then they came for Ben,
and I didn't speak up because I was already losing interest.

Then they came for Murilee
and by that time no one was left to speak up..."

I couldn't have said it better. Jalopnik used to be good because of the sum of it's parts. Well now the good parts have left and they are stuffed with stories that are of little interest to "car people" I would like to associate with in the real world and they are getting pissy (moving comments to some no-mans-land page) instead of providing actual good content.  I, dare I say, have been enjoying the trends of motors slightly more recently and not just Jonny's posts. Everything must change. Sadly for the jalop not for the better. Thanks Phil for highlighting my dads shop and his band of merry citroens in Oakland and our friend's on The Island.

Christopher Hanzel

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Judge Phil wrote:

Gawker would prefer to have sites full of great, original content that brings in lots of new regular readers... but they'll settle for posts that just go viral on Twitter/Facebook/etc and bring in a ton of one-time visitors. Sadly— particularly for one whose wife is a print journalist with a lot of pride in her profession— all journalism seems to be headed down this road.

As someone who always wished they could "really" write, it also pains me to see everything going in the crapper. I hope someday you, your wife and others like you are rewarded for hanging on to their integrity for as long as possible.

"Real ZomBees prefer Bacon"
IOE(x2) MGB/SAAB 96, Judge's Choice, Class C Win, & 2011 Hooniverse Car of the Year!
MRolla, Stick Figure/Animal House, Free Range MR2, SAAB Sonett, "The Death Flip"
2008 Exoskeleton Jag Fiasco, Concours d Lemons - Rue Britannia, worse British car.

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When I first discovered Jalopnik, I had to restrain myself, because I would spend hours and hours pouring over the back catalog of articles.  There was so much good stuff there!

We got such a rush out of having our very own Jalopnik IOE-winner article, with a big picture of our car on the track, and for a brief moment, we were famous!  It was one of the highlights of the whole experience.  Before that, I was the only Jalop reader on the team.  All of my team members posted that article on Facebook and sent it to friends and family members...

Toady, the Jalopnik bookmark has been removed, and MurileeMartin.com put in its place.  I'm sure I'll go back there occasionally, but I don't think it will be a regular thing.  Here's hoping that DOTS, PCH, Lemons coverage, junkyard shenanigans, and A100 updates will continue as usual smile

Former chief proprietor and lead bad idea generator of Binford "More Power" Racing, 2010-2013: humbly self-proclaimed the best Chevy Beretta in Lemons history.

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vwminispeedster wrote:

Jalopnik used to be good because of the sum of it's parts. Well now the good parts have left and they are stuffed with stories that are of little interest to "car people" I would like to associate with in the real world and they are getting pissy (moving comments to some no-mans-land page) instead of providing actual good content.

+1. When AutoWeek up and decided to become AutoBiWeekly a couple years back, I decided to let my subscription lapse, in part because the new format eliminated the possibility of providing timely news items (like the racing coverage), but more because I felt like I was getting almost all of the stuff that wasn't timely from teh auto blogs, and most especially, from Jalopnik. But then they started cutting the interesting stuff -- I mean I lived for NPOCP and PCH when Phil was writing it on the weekdays -- but ever since he and Jonny both got shafted, I've grown less interested. This may just cut it for me.

If only AutoWeek were actually a weekly again...

Pat Mulry, TARP Racing #67

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Hoonatic Racing wrote:

Good luck on your book. I'm glad you aren't leaving Lemons like what-his-name we've already forgotten.

Thanks, fucker.

"This is the scene where I get shot," Bronson said. "I have these little squibs that explode to make it look like bullets are hitting." "Fascinating," said Bergman. "I never knew how they did that." "You mean," asked Bronson, "you don't use machine guns in your movies?"

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I have a lot of empathy for you, Phil.

A long time ago, in a land far, far away, I wrote "real" content. I found out in a hurry that people don't want that any more. Reading is too hard. It's too difficult to place yourself in the writer's shoes and pull up some feelings that you haven't had for a while. I think most people would crap on Richard S Foster today, and he's one of the reasons I like to write about cars. I really wonder if any one actually reads the books they buy any more, or do they just buy them to say they were there when the book came out?

When I got offered a slot at CarDomain, I didn't know whether to scream, cry, or LOL. I'm lucky that my editor is a wickedly good guy and has a good handle on how to utilize the CD blog within the site as a whole. We have a good time over there - it's not a glamour gig, but it's fun and I never have to watch my back.

The whole path of journalism is downhill right now. sad I blame PowerPoint and Rupert Murdock. It's even affected the scientific community - look at ClimateGate. sad sad sad Those are my peeps, and they fell for the page count thing, too.



<-- has a date with an Alex Horowitz tonight, so she can have an intelligent conversation with her 11YO.

Captainess: #88 Scirocket Racing - Did someone say Pikachu?

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Judge Phil wrote:
BlackIronRacing_V wrote:

So - I am correct in guessing that the people who win the ten spots to compete for the job will be folks who have hyperactive twitter ADD and get 1000s of their twitter/facebook followers to click on their jalop article - EVEN though their articles may be horrible and/or not really car related?  So is it correct in assuming that Gawker wants people who bring with them connections to new 'clicks' rather than people who can bring some interesting commentary/cool car stuff to their ostensibly car themed website?  Interesting.

Gawker would prefer to have sites full of great, original content that brings in lots of new regular readers... but they'll settle for posts that just go viral on Twitter/Facebook/etc and bring in a ton of one-time visitors. Sadly— particularly for one whose wife is a print journalist with a lot of pride in her profession— all journalism seems to be headed down this road.

Its an interesting double edged sword isn't it? The very tools of freedom and accountability that a free press provide are expanded by orders of magnitude by the internet, yet this very democratization of information has eliminated the barriers to entry of publishing  - resulting in anything getting published without regard to accuracy, quality or the truth. I'm very interested to see how the journalism will, and will have to transform to retain relevance. Even prior to this, so much "news" was thousands of outlets regurgitating the same single source from AP or other services, so we weren't on a good path anyway!

"Don't mess with Lexas!" LS400. We survived another one! See website link for build details.
Maker of the "unofficial Lemons fish!" - If you ask nice, I'll likely give you one at the track.

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ronman wrote:

I never got starred.

Me neither, but I just assumed nobody liked me.  tongue

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I just read the NPOCP for the day. Do they ever edit anything at Jalopnik, or did the editors leave too? It was almost unreadable from a grammar standpoint. I had to do a lot of extra thinking to figure out what he meant and the repetition of already-stale Hummer jokes just grated on my nerves.

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I unsubscribed Jalop from my RSS feed reader after "Ms. Motors" "Hello" post. Ugh. At least Autoblog still delivers good info...TTAC is worth reading occasionally (except for that tool bag, Baruth).

Justin
Team Cardorks: #901 Amtrack E36 / # 902 Philly E30 / #903 Integra TypeArrr!
Driving something, somewhere.

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Adversity, opportunity and all that.  There is an audience for what Phil does.  There are proven numbers.  To paraphrase the Underwear Gnomes:

Step 1: Steal readers
Step 2:?
Step 3: Profit

We'll be right there.

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Boo! I liked the irreverence of Jalopnik - it sucks now.

I don't have any affiliation with the site, but www.hooniverse.com is pretty good.

I've bookmarked the new Murilee Martin - good luck with it!

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fifty wrote:

Boo! I liked the irreverence of Jalopnik - it sucks now.

I don't have any affiliation with the site, but www.hooniverse.com is pretty good.

I've bookmarked the new Murilee Martin - good luck with it!

I can't live without Hooniverse. It's what Jalop used to represent for me.

I "recently and forcibly" went 2 days without it, and ended up holed up in a cave on Guam somehow.

(They just did a DNS swaparoo thingy, and it's back up everywhere on earth except in my little village called the Silicon Valley, go figure)

"Real ZomBees prefer Bacon"
IOE(x2) MGB/SAAB 96, Judge's Choice, Class C Win, & 2011 Hooniverse Car of the Year!
MRolla, Stick Figure/Animal House, Free Range MR2, SAAB Sonett, "The Death Flip"
2008 Exoskeleton Jag Fiasco, Concours d Lemons - Rue Britannia, worse British car.

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Hooniverse was the first place I suspected Murilee posts to start showing up.  This was posted there today, though:

In case anyone’s wondering, we tried to pick him up, but his negotiators wouldn’t back down from the “unlimited ammo” clause. IDKFA didn’t work, either. Actually, the saucy minx might just make a few guest appearances, whenever we all get around to it.

Former chief proprietor and lead bad idea generator of Binford "More Power" Racing, 2010-2013: humbly self-proclaimed the best Chevy Beretta in Lemons history.

72 (edited by Armand4 2010-10-01 07:40 PM)

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I was one of the first Jalopnik commenters to get a star.  I haven't even looked at the weekday site in months; now that the Saucy Minx is gone, I have no reason to look at it on weekends, either.

Luckily, as my memories of the awesomeness that once was Jalopnik grow dim with age and Lucas smoke, my car-porn needs can be satisfied by Hooniverse and Bring a Trailer.

73 (edited by komododave 2010-10-02 12:02 PM)

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Wow......
Don't hate me, but I entered the contest...*cringes*
"Lessons From the Brazilian Hooniverse"
...
I just read everything in this thread and now I feel like a wide eyed Amish kid out on rumspringa that just got mugged.  I saw all of this degredation happening at Jalopnik and I was sad.  I didn't find everything to be as entertaining.  Jalopnik is where I discovered Lemons and the updates and profiles were awesome.  I saw Johnny leave and I went boo, but at least he's still with Lemons.  And then Murilee left last week and I realized my weekends just got more free.  And then this contest...  I thought "Wow, I could help make it great again!  Bring more Lemons stuff back!  Make the weekends awesome."  Murilee is irreplaceable as weekend editor, but I thought I could give it a shot.  I started thinking of ideas for weekly features dealing with Lemons and other random yet interesting articles, but then....this thread.  You all are completely right about Jalopnik though.  I thought that I could make a difference if I won.  I realize now that I wouldn't be allowed to.
....
I feel so naive now.....

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2010 Gator-O-Rama: 1973 Gremlin - Gremlin Express, Lassiez le Crapheaps Roulette - Gremlin - Most Heroic Fix
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komododave wrote:

I feel so naive now.....

The experience can be good even if the site is losing its edge.  I was thinking about entering as well but I have way too much crap to do this fall to even think about adding a second job to fill my weekends.

Team Merikuh
Omaha '10 wussed out, lost too many drivers sad
"Simplify, then add Awesome"

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Thanks for the tip on Hooniverse!  First 2 pages was all I had to see.  Deleted the Jalopnik RSS, replaced with Hooniverse RSS

ALLEGEDLY!

-Dave
Scuderia Ignorante // Modena / Dearborn / Aichi Prefecture / West Texas