[ Closed ] Roll cage options.. (Page 3 of 3)

I wouldn't take to long finding the reciept because or your cage might look like swiss cheese when you get back from all the holes they'll be drilling to verify each tube in multiple spots.  These inspectors are a suspicious lot.

I want to be a fly on the wall at two times - BS inspection and thier first black flag.

The chrome moly is something like .093 wall and 1.72 in diameter.  I know it's just a couple of thousands off. Which is why I asked about wiggle room.  Espesically when I saw a car with the stuff that has been racing with the group.  Then looking through the pictures (galley?) I spotted another one.
   That's where I tried to clarify. 
   It seemed like a lot of people were jumping in without reading completely.
  No means No sort of answers when clearly that wasn't the case in some cases..
  Early on I said I wouldn't bring anything less than professional and  the cries got more abusive.. almost 2 dozen posts ago  I said I would buy DOM  I repeated it and repeated it and yet the abuse got even worse..
  If  like me you've read rules completely and every thread on the subject  carefully  You'll see that is not uniform in response..
  Under Tech the first thread is a rules clarification about rollbar rules.. I read all  5 "Pages?" and several comments report nonstandard tubing without a single negative comment. 
  I apologized  to a Inspector and and polietly  pointed out that there was nothing in the rules about a inspection hole . I asked nicely where to put it and the reponse was don't worry we'll swiss cheese it for you..
Now I realize that not everyone who responds is speaking for the club. Yet some have claimed authority have been less than friendly..
  I do know sometimes a few individuals are going to be off..
  I try to make light of things.  98% of the people I've met over the years racing have been great..  The other 2% doesn't seem to last very long so they don't bother me..
Just to repeat.. THE CAR WILL SHOW UP WITH A PROPER ROLLCAGE WITH DOM STEEL AND NOT CHROME MOLY.   
I suppose I've been a victum of a Flame war..
I guess I have to take it with good humor but it sure makes it hard to ask any future questions where the potential exists to be treated this way..

Compared to full on flame wars of the old school this was reasonable and enlightened discussion I think. I'm certain you don't realize it but from time to time through all your posts you really come off (to me at least, I don't speak for The Club!) looking like you're saying "I'm a Real Race Driver and I Know Better" all the while offering friendly advice. Despite that possibly being true the impression is unlikely to help your popularity here where the culture has kind of rejected that sort of attitude, real or imagined. I'm not at all saying don't post, but be aware of why people might react that way.

I haven't gone to look but I seem to remember Trekkor getting similar treatment when he arrived.

can i build my cage from 45x3.5  316 Stainless Tube?

there's a place in town called Parker steel. they ONLY do metric metals, and I'd love me some sponsorship.

i just don't want a rusty cage. 316's got >60,000psi tensile strength so i should be OK

You'll get beaten with a yardstick if you use it.

Can I build my cage from 6 inch diameter Oak logs?  The bending strength is higher than the requirements and I've been building furniture for years.  Wanna see my gorgeous and sturdy rocking chair?

Don't be too concerned about him, in another thread he was trying to get his car ready for the Brainerd race.  Soooo, he'll be running in a different crapcan series entirely.

I'm sorry if that's the impression I give. It's most assuredly not how I feel.. I'm a fat old man who simply loves sports car racing.. The idea of taking a $500 budget and doing something with it is exciting and fun.. However combine that with a chance to play with my favorite cars (Jagaurs) and I want to do as good a job as possible.. I'm trying to be carefull to properly prep the car so when I arrive the car doesn't have issues and I can get on with the fun part.
In retrospect I should have simply shut up about my concern about the trival differance between DOM and Chrome Moly.  Slapped a coat of paint on the cage and based on what's already running in your club it would have been fine..
  It was foolish of me to check on things first..

Actually I intend to do the two Brainerd events and your Chicago event.  Reading the rules both of you are similar.  The differances are trivial enough.  The prime differance as I see it is that the Fields are smaller at Chump Car.  only 20 cars or so running at the end of a 7 hour event.. Less than 35 started.. Your events seem far better supported..
  AS far as penalty laps they aren't really going to be important.. I intend to bring a 34 year old Jaguar.. that's enough penalty laps in itself to prevent any hope of success even if through some miricle it lasts the whole time..  Add the fuel penalty.  most of your cars got 30-40 MPG (on the street) early Jags got 8-11, under racing conditions that's about 40 minutes between refills.. time in the pits in a say 24 hour race means I'll be 40 minutes behind if by some miricle I were to finish..
Now add a car that weighs over 3700#'s and an engine that when new put out 272 horsepower  Racing that old lady will be like watching your granny do the High hurdles.. Not much chance for anything but merriment..
  Face it, anybody who wants to do that has to have a great sense of humor