Hella Shitty 911 and AVI$ Aveo battle for a top 3 at Thunder Hill! (Page 2 of 3)

It never occurred to me that our black flag at the end of day 1 while leading, could have been an equalizer.  The funny thing was, we were not ahead much at all, the next 6 in line were within a lap or so, and they really took there time with me at the black flag station.  We had zero black flags until this one 20 minutes from the end of day 1, we have NEVER bribed the Gods in charge, and we are, after all, driving a Daewoo to a top 5 in most races we enter.  Hmmmmmm.  Very good point.  Like you...good thing this is not real racing!  LOL.

I would say that our 3 solid year contribution to the Bank of Lemons with a minimum of 4 races per year, should be enough Koolade to keep us from the heat.

I would prefer to consider that some random flag person thought there was contact and fingered us as we squirted through the scattering pack...and the Lemons Gods were just following what was reported.  Bad luck for us...but that's just how it works some times.

Hysterical!

I bet you're right about that!  It would be one hell of a party in Vegas if we won one of these things however!

Interesting
3 teams (in this thread) black flagged out of the lead on day 1.

Ever had a 'star' written on your tech sheet when you turned it into the tower? We have both times (and only those times) we have been given a performance award. Like I say though, real or imagined, we always have a blast. Ultimately we are the reason we fail. Either it's due to us killing the car (most likely), or we get real black flags for missing a yellow. Sure is fun though.

I highly doubt that there is any conspiracy in place that lessens the chances of winning for a team, especially if that one that hasn't won before.

Now the dyno at the end of the day at Thunderhilll to the top 5 teams was a pretty awesome way of leveling the field and showing all the teams that a couple of multi winners on the west coast were not cheating, they were just good drivers who stayed out of the penalty box.

You guys get very excited...

I also wonder if that crash would have even happened if he were fully focused on driving instead of yammering on. I know I have to keep the chatter down to a minimum so I can watch for things exactly like that. Maybe it's because I come from a motorcycle background though. I enjoy the silence. 

Just an FYI, if you get hit and and you're feeling too excited to sit quietly in your car, stop and repair the car first. The judges will understand you needed to repair the car before you drove over, and it will give you plenty of time to cool off. It actually speeds up the process a bit because you don't get the double whammy of pissing off the judges and waiting longer for the penalty. Food for thought.

Really? On the East coast the tow truck drivers drop a crashed cars at the penalty box instead of at their pit? That sounds crazy to me. How do you get the car back to your pit from the PB? Push it? What if it's missing a wheel?

I'm really not trying to mince words here, honest. I'm only trying to be totally clear on a point you made.  If a car is disabled due to detonation it can go to the pit, but if it was disabled due to driver error (a crash of some sort) only then will the disabled car be dropped in the middle of the PB by tow trucks? Is that a correct statement? The tow trucks just pile up cars missing wheels, whilst spilling fluids all over the pattock so Jay doesn't get mad at them for a delay in his punishment?

Or could it possibly make more sense to stop in your pit to make sure the car can actually make it back onto the track before oiling the entire pattock?

See, I strongly believe that getting the car checked out for the safety of every racer on the grid far outweighs Jay's wrath with the time it takes me to get the same punishment I was going to get anyway. Oddly, he has always agreed with that point.   

Now, if I were to crash my car, go to my pit and spend 20-infinity minutes to fix it, and I didn't stop into the PB on my way back out onto the track, then I could understand him getting upset. 

I'm only making this point in a contact BF type situation. ANY other BF and it's straight to the PB before you even think of picking your nose.

I hope that clears up what I was trying to say.  Sometimes I skip over parts in my mind, so it tends to comes out convoluted.

This is the part we don't yet see eye to eye on. How does he know his car is ok? Does the driver know that tracking 300+ more feet with said busted-ass hooptie will not endanger not only his life, but everyone around him? How does he know the fuel line has not been knocked to the back of the wheel?

I simply can't think of a single scenario where a crashed car needs a stern talking to before a thorough evaluation is all. Secondly, if that evaluation also allows the driver a few minutes to gain some retrospective on his asshattery, then it's a bonus for the team and Jay/ all of Lemons.  We all know by now a driver/employee/human taken out of the natural defensive response is more likely to be open to other ideas.