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I would assume that they don't have the schedule buttoned up just yet, because there no reason to withhold it.
we all seem to have fun stories of detroit, I'm thinking I should continue Campaigning for the Belle Isle 24 Hours of Lemons (Don't fall off the Island)!
Rockford Brodie wrote:Judge Jonny wrote:Plus don't forget one hour of racing car silence for Jesus on Sunday.
Please tell me you're kidding.
It's true. I THINK the story is something like when they built the track, a Church 8 miles away agreed to not hold up their plans IF they agreed to pause from 11:00 am to 12:00 pm on Sunday.
Which they do. All race engines must be off.
It actually works out well, as that's when we do the Curse.
I've mentioned this before, but I think teams should have the option to PUSH their cars around the track during quiet time to rack up laps-- must have 1 person behind the wheel belted in and the rest of the team pushing while wearing full safety gear, of course (they are out on a race track, ya know). OR --if the insurance people don't like that-- allow a pedal-car option so that the driver can still be buckled in, in full safety gear and within the cage, and pedal their car themselves.
OR make a subset "Lemons Green" category and allow teams to carry roof/bumper/trunk mounted bicycle racks with a bicycle on it during the driving time and then ride the bike around the track during the quiet time with the same goal of accumulating laps to be attached to the overall total. Of course, the bike would be counted in the $500 total cost.
I did a bicycle race on Road America in WI a couple years. Really fun and challenging with the elevation changes there, but pretty greasy in the corners when it rained one year.
I used to work on Plymouth road between Greenfield & Schaffer.... The building had more than a few bullet marks from stray shots. One of the mechanics usually rolled in around 5:30am & one morning when he stopped for gas, he was told that he just missed the gun fight... yikes!
Last fall, one of the technicians stopped for gas after work & had his car stolen when he went in to pay.... it's a wonderful place to, uh, gamble?! Oh wait, we've got Windsor, nevermind...
Eric
Despite my bad experiences, Detroit sure has some fantastic homes going super cheap....if they can find something for people to do there the Art Deco houses and potential loft space is incredible....Race there? Sure! besides, the two guys who got me let me live so I suppose that's kind of civil....
Bonneville Lemons !!!!!!!!!!!!!! talk about separating the men from the boys .............. ( or the suicidal from the NOT suicidal .....) or maybe Drag Lemons !! which I have been doing for decades anyway without even trying
Lemons in Drag... That might be interesting!~!
Bonneville Lemons !!!!!!!!!!!!!! talk about separating the men from the boys .............. ( or the suicidal from the NOT suicidal .....) or maybe Drag Lemons !! which I have been doing for decades anyway without even trying
more like separating the salt from the .... what's left of the car.
Salt throughout the undercarriage, let me show you!
prime suspect wrote:Bonneville Lemons !!!!!!!!!!!!!! talk about separating the men from the boys .............. ( or the suicidal from the NOT suicidal .....) or maybe Drag Lemons !! which I have been doing for decades anyway without even trying
more like separating the salt from the .... what's left of the car.
Salt throughout the undercarriage, let me show you!
I'm guessing that many of us wouldn't notice any real difference in our cars.
Judge Jonny wrote:I'm not going to tell you schlubs anything.
ha ha ha!
DAMN YOU!!! At least a rough ETA would be nice for the folks going thru DT's
That's a fair point.
I'll say this, all the races next year will take place during 2010 and will be within the lower 48.
ecugrad wrote:Judge Jonny wrote:I'm not going to tell you schlubs anything.
ha ha ha!
DAMN YOU!!! At least a rough ETA would be nice for the folks going thru DT's
That's a fair point.
I'll say this, all the races next year will take place during 2010 and will be within the lower 48.
What? Still no Canadian dates? Don't you guys like good beer and rye whiskey?
With Shannonville taken, what's left?! Mosport would start a pile of heaps on the outside of T2. I ran the oval at Cayuga once, but ovals seem to be on the way out.... Mont Tremblant would be awesome but the ownership may have issues with anything crapcan-ish being anywhere near his place & I don't see us getting an invite to Trois Riviere anytime soon!!
Eric
Cayuga (Toronto Motorsports Park) has a 3km road course, and Mosport has a "driver development" road circuit, too....Shannonville is probably the ideal track....does Chumpcar have a monopoly? I'd prefer Mosport main circuit but marshaling would probably be an issue, esp. T2...obviously you've been there too!
Chumpcar claimed that they are trying to go places that Lemons doesn't & make it sound like they're working together to cover more area. How hard they're trying to not step on each others toes is anyones guess. Shannonville wasn't one of my favorite tracks, but it's definitely a good fit for this format.
I was at Cayuga in 2000, so the 1.8ish mile road course would be a welcome addition!
I thought the Mosport "driver development" circuit was a kart track, but I've obviously never paid much attention on the way by..... as far as Turn two goes... I've been there, but thankfully nothing more than harmless spins & after the track was renovated, widened & the barriers moved back. I brought the F1200 back full of dirt & gravel more than once 
Two good Mosport laps... the video doesn't do the elevation changes justice, but the speed is obvious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1cWhEd2nsk
Eric
Lemons at Tremblant. Makes me smile just to think of the angst and pain it would cause organizers and track and town. Actually the poor fit and potential for fisticuffs makes it all the more appealing.
I vote to run a full 24 hour race at Autobahn Country Club. The neighbors are all removed to build a gigantic intermodal. I don't think anybody would be upset about the noise. The facility is top notch and close to Chicago for spectators.
ecugrad wrote:Judge Jonny wrote:I'm not going to tell you schlubs anything.
ha ha ha!
DAMN YOU!!! At least a rough ETA would be nice for the folks going thru DT's
That's a fair point.
I'll say this, all the races next year will take place during 2010 and will be within the lower 48.
Agreed RE Gingerman- would be great because it's a wide open track with a lot of runoff room and great spectating ability. However the Sunday Silence rule does affect the true 24 hour plan. Still, it would be a GREAT track for Lemons and the track owner is a real race fan
Autobahn does have the room and the neighbors should not be an issue- all bought out by industry like others said. The surrounding road and site improvements are being constructed as we speak. However the member rights thing is certainly a concern. However however, I think ABCC is not doing too well according to some well-to-do people I know. So the Lemons event could provide some income they need? I doubt the track day DE follow-me-but-don't-pass-me-until-I-say-you-can events provide a huge revenue to the track?
Still, ABCC would be a hoot for these piles of shiat because it's fairly safe. Just watch out for S3. That turn will total anybody who turns in too early and runs out of track on exit. It surprises the hell out of you when it happens. RESPECT S3!!!! That guardrail has claimed more cars (some BIG dollar ones, both race cars and member exotica) than anywhere else on the track, w/out question.
Otherwise maybe the Chicagoland NASTYCAR speedway could host Lemons! 
Agreed RE Gingerman- would be great because it's a wide open track with a lot of runoff room and great spectating ability. However the Sunday Silence rule does affect the true 24 hour plan. Still, it would be a GREAT track for Lemons and the track owner is a real race fan
Autobahn does have the room and the neighbors should not be an issue- all bought out by industry like others said. The surrounding road and site improvements are being constructed as we speak. However the member rights thing is certainly a concern. However however, I think ABCC is not doing too well according to some well-to-do people I know. So the Lemons event could provide some income they need? I doubt the track day DE follow-me-but-don't-pass-me-until-I-say-you-can events provide a huge revenue to the track?
Still, ABCC would be a hoot for these piles of shiat because it's fairly safe. Just watch out for S3. That turn will total anybody who turns in too early and runs out of track on exit. It surprises the hell out of you when it happens. RESPECT S3!!!! That guardrail has claimed more cars (some BIG dollar ones, both race cars and member exotica) than anywhere else on the track, w/out question.
Otherwise maybe the Chicagoland NASTYCAR speedway could host Lemons!
The member rights guarantee's that the members will have one track or the other available to them pretty much every day. It wouldn't be a problem at all to occupy the second track for 3 days. The food is good and there are plenty of local parts stores and gas stations.
South 5 requires some respect as well. Plenty of people have run out of track, yanked the car back on, and ended up in the wall on the other side. It is a relatively safe track though.
I love how everyone always thinks that the only track worth racing at is the one that's within an hour's drive of their house.
I've driven over 7,000 miles this season and I only went to four races! Suck it up, Nancies!
I love how everyone always thinks that the only track worth racing at is the one that's within an hour's drive of their house.
I've driven over 7,000 miles this season and I only went to four races! Suck it up, Nancies!
Promote this man!
We did 1000 miles to one race. I know the feeling. Nothing like the 8 hour drive home after being up for 2 days. That was fun.
the drive is all part of the adventure. Would I like a race coser to home?? Sure, but if the event is worthwhile I'll be there! Aint no stoppin me!
1000 miles? Ha, amateurs.
This is my trip odometer upon arriving home from Nelson Ledges:
Lemons Vegas to Reno! Worst in the dirt!
I"ll gladly go to NL again. Most all of the tracks within earshot of Chi-town, that would be willing to host this wacky event, are BORING.
The long drive is no biggie so long as you've got other people willing to drive the tow vehicle and not be a candyass. Some in our group are afraid to drive anything that is pulling something behind it....
The only downside about the haul is the occasional trailer fail. Part of our trailer was tired of keeping up and decided to go it alone with oncoming traffic. That sucked..........
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