Public apology (Page 2 of 7)

Competitive is fine, but if you're gonna be on the track with the rest of us, you've got to be able to keep your brain engaged at the same time. You're allowed maybe 5 seconds of fist pounding rage after getting t-boned, but by the time you start big, heavy deathwagen around the track again, you need to be in control.

If it was that same kind of rage that got you past all those bikes at WSIR, I'm surprised you didn't kill yourself.

That apology better come with some kind of understanding of just how unimportant this stupid shit is, or I don't want you on the track (or especially in the pits) with us.

You should never have any fist pounding rage.  This is freaking Lemons.  $500 cars.  People dressed up like pimps, hoes, and pedobears.  Cars that sometimes more closely resemble parade floats than racecars.  If you get yourself all worked up over _that_...  Over having to beat _that_...  Over having to win _that_...   If you get worked up for even an instant, *I* don't want you around me either.

I'll third or fourth that one. I've gotten a total of ONE black flag (for short cutting the pit exit at Buttonwillow, not anything on track) in nine or ten races.

I've had my car taken out by chuckleheads back in the Altamont days.

If you can't keep it together in Lemons racing, I'm not sure you should be allowed out of the house unsupervised- it's crapcan racing for F*** sake.
That said, I've seen plenty of road rage style behavior at Lemons, it's just not usually so public...

Didn't you walk over with a wrench in your hand to yell at one of our drivers for ramming your car into the wall at Altamont, Mr. Pot Kettle black?

Since the whole team pays for the sins of each team member (and Jay has a very long memory), it's the team's job to ensure that rage-prone members never even get close to throwing punches and/or running people over in the pits. If that means rationing the sugar/caffeine and doing a lengthy meditation session in your mobile zen garden before going on to the track, so be it.

You guys are free to pound each other into heaps of bleeding hamburger with lengths of ball-bearing-filled heater hose when someone cuts in front of you in the supermarket checkout line, but not when your hoopty-ass cars trade Bondo at our race.

You apparently have never been done wrong on track.  I never understood the "red mist" until I was blocked for ten consecutive laps, at which point I took my fate into my own hands and solved the problem fairly.  So I understand the red mist.  However, I think you should be able to control yourself a little more than you did, but the fact that this is 500$ crapcan racing does not remove all the competitiveness out of it.

Oh, and I do not have a black flag in five races. 

This reminds me of the Chris Rock bit about OJ: "I'm not saying I approve of what he did, but...I understand."

Never got a black flag but may have had a hearty hello to one of the cars at gator-o-rama last year after being actively blocked for a few laps and still to this day wondering how a car managed to come from 8 cars back under caution to t-bone me in the hairpin...but it was fine when driving a barge first gen mr-2 just didnt really have the ability to hurt us.

will definitely feel like the chihuahua instead of the mastiff this season

Disney, why is it always sunshine and happy mice with you.

My wife loves meeting people shorter than her.  It doesn't happen often.

Anyhow, I hope this sheds a little light on our "All Fault" contact policy.

We don't give a fuck (unless the contact was on purpose) why you hit each other.

The two drivers get taped together at the knee and sent off to discuss it amongst themselves.

Cuts down on vigilantism

I've never had a black flag either, and no, I've not been "done wrong" on the track.

At the last CMP race I kept getting blocked by a Neon out there and I never got raged up over it. I waited until I could pass easily. Didn't take long with all the traffic out there and having one of the fastest cars (SVX). Patience and a sense of humor goes a long ways.

So no, I do not get your "red mist" analogy. It's crap can racing. I don't care all that much if you hit our car, just means we fire up the smoker and brews that much sooner!

I think the problem comes form people that show up at these races with the intention of winning (ifb_mole). If you show up with HOPES of even FINISHING and expecting to have fun, then you will not be disappointed! If you show up expecting to win, you might end up in a red mist fist fight with raged up Red Bull Pirates.

Just my experience, YMMV.

Um, guys.  There is no such thing as "blocking" in a car race.  Really it's just defending your line.  You are not supposed to drift over on a straight with the intention of preventing the forward progress of a faster car but when you are setting up for a turn you can take the middle line to thwart a late braking rival.  Now, if that guy in front of you takes a defensive line entering a turn you can move to the outside on corner entry and gain the advantage on corner exit.  If you have to do some mad dive bomb to pass a car, the problem is not that he's blocking you, it's that you're are not really much faster and have to press the issue to get by.  Lemons is still an automobile race and thus you can't expect point by passing.  If you have to hit a car in front of you in order to pass it trust me you are not doing it right.