Topic: Sears Pointless.....car count?
Does any one know what the final car count is based on fully accepted and paid entries? Track configuration been determined yet?
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I talked to Jay a couple of weeks ago and he said 150 cars had been accepted to the race and they figure about 125 will actually show.
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Wow!
"The spectacle that is Lemons"...
So exciting!!
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Re: Sears Pointless.....car count?
last I counted there was 208 teams entered...of course that doesn't mean they all get in....125 cars actually racing should be interesting....
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The big question for me is: what course configuration?
Anyone?!?
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trekkor wrote:
The big question for me is: what course configuration?
Anyone?!?
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From what I can recall from an email conversation with Nick, they haven't arrived at a final configuration and probably won't until they get to the track on Thursday or whenever, but are almost certain to run the turn 4/5/6-carousel rather than the Nascar cutoff. If I were a betting man, and if we're looking at 125ish cars on the track, I'd bet that we will run mostly the IRL course, the part that veers to the left off the dragstrip, then the longer Nascar-based Turn 7, then the lower version of the esses into turn 9 (I think this is referred to as the IRL Chicane?), and then I'm hoping that we use the true turn 11 hairpin and the full front straight (longer track for more cars), but I could also see them using 11a instead to keep down front straight speeds.
But that's just my best guess. Cheers.
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All that you said makes sense EXCEPT the abbreviated T11 (11a?) with that many cars it is just safer to have the track as long as you can AND have safe passing zones. From the exit of the IRL T9a to T11 is one of the best and safest places to pass and then the run out of 11 into T2 is another. The speed is not that much, really, The hill is steep into T2 and MOST people (especially people that havn't run Infineon much) tend to over brake for T2 anyway PLUS the steepness of the hill, really scrubs off speed. The run down the front straight into T1 at Thunderhill is far more hairy than the run outta T11 into T2 at Infineon.
I just want LONG and SAFE more than anything and the IRL T9a pretty much bypasses the most dangerous part of Infineon.
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I'm extremely torn about whether the "IRL chicane" or the true T9 will be better. The chicane absolutely keeps the speed in to the very dangerous T10 lower, but the chicane is so tight, that it will become an absolute choke point and contact/crash fest.
The driver in me wants to skip the chicane, as T9-T10 is a GREAT passing zone. The armchair risk mitigator says the slower chicane is better.
What do others think?
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Re: Sears Pointless.....car count?
I agree with you, Dean.
It seems the T9 chicane makes the most sense, safety wise.
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Not only do I know how many cars there will be (many) but I know the track configuration.
I just ain't saying.
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I'll ask 'Knuckles'...
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Re: Sears Pointless.....car count?
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I'll ask 'Knuckles'...
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"This is the scene where I get shot," Bronson said. "I have these little squibs that explode to make it look like bullets are hitting." "Fascinating," said Bergman. "I never knew how they did that." "You mean," asked Bronson, "you don't use machine guns in your movies?"
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Bonus laps?
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I predict participants willove Infineon and it will be one of the Lemons favorite if not THE most favorite "must run" track. It is awesome
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I run there about 6 times a year and visit more.
It's my favorite, by far.
It's tough not to go there instead of work somedays.
We'll be there Thursday-Sunday.
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Re: Sears Pointless.....car count?
trekkor wrote:
Bonus laps?
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Asking for bonus laps in a public forum is a 10 lap infraction.
So, you're now up to 15, pre-race
"This is the scene where I get shot," Bronson said. "I have these little squibs that explode to make it look like bullets are hitting." "Fascinating," said Bergman. "I never knew how they did that." "You mean," asked Bronson, "you don't use machine guns in your movies?"
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Judge Jonny wrote:
Not only do I know how many cars there will be (many) but I know the track configuration. I just ain't saying.
Why the secrecy??
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Judge Jonny wrote:Not only do I know how many cars there will be (many) but I know the track configuration. I just ain't saying.
Why the secrecy??
Because all the speculation on safety, Jay's wallet, where to pass and other arm-chair expertize will surely crash the servers.
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Ok, here's a new idea sure to intoxicate. Let's start at the exit to Turn 11. Go straight up the dragstrip, avoiding the difficult Turn 1/2/3/3a/4 complex entirely. Turn left at 6 and do the carousel and T5 in reverse order. Turn right at 4 and go down the Nascar chute. Turn right at the IRL cutoff from the dragstrip, then a hairpin back up the dragstrip where it intersects with the IRL cutoff, back toward T7. Use the long Nascar boot, the northern part of the esses, then the IRL chicane, T10, and then 11a.
Thus you take a thoroughly entertaining course and make a circus out of it, run in a configuration nobody has ever had the audacity (temerity? idiocy?) to run before. How's about them apples?
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Mulry wrote:
Ok, here's a new idea sure to intoxicate. Let's start at the exit to Turn 11. Go straight up the dragstrip, avoiding the difficult Turn 1/2/3/3a/4 complex entirely. Turn left at 6 and do the carousel and T5 in reverse order. Turn right at 4 and go down the Nascar chute. Turn right at the IRL cutoff from the dragstrip, then a hairpin back up the dragstrip where it intersects with the IRL cutoff, back toward T7. Use the long Nascar boot, the northern part of the esses, then the IRL chicane, T10, and then 11a.
Thus you take a thoroughly entertaining course and make a circus out of it, run in a configuration nobody has ever had the audacity (temerity? idiocy?) to run before. How's about them apples?
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Re: Sears Pointless.....car count?
If you could effectively make a cross-over (figure 8 style) in that configuration, then I think you're on to something...