Topic: '97 Volvo 850 as DD?

Another one of my kids is starting to drive. The last one got a '95 Honda Civic that has been a really good car for her. I also have owned a lot of Honda Civics and can basically do anything to them.

I have a 318is Convertible sitting around that I was going to put into service for this kid, but a family member has offered a '97 Volvo 850 wagon (2.5L, 5-cyl, front wheel drive, auto, over 100K miles) that they have sitting around. I'd just have to drive it back from Wisconsin and do any maintenance that it needs. They say it runs well, but needs a battery.

Does anyone have any information on these as DD's? I want something that will be reliable and low-maintenance.

Thanks

Everybody grab your brooms, it's shenanigans!

Re: '97 Volvo 850 as DD?

rmcdaniels wrote:

Another one of my kids is starting to drive. The last one got a '95 Honda Civic that has been a really good car for her. I also have owned a lot of Honda Civics and can basically do anything to them.

I have a 318is Convertible sitting around that I was going to put into service for this kid, but a family member has offered a '97 Volvo 850 wagon (2.5L, 5-cyl, front wheel drive, auto, over 100K miles) that they have sitting around. I'd just have to drive it back from Wisconsin and do any maintenance that it needs. They say it runs well, but needs a battery.

Does anyone have any information on these as DD's? I want something that will be reliable and low-maintenance.

Thanks

Kinda in the same boat and starting to look around.  There was a clean, low-mileage one here locally with a blown head gasket for a decent price.  In digging around a bit I'm getting the feeling that 5 cyl is kinda head gasket blowey.

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Re: '97 Volvo 850 as DD?

rmcdaniels wrote:

t a family member has offered a '97 Volvo 850 wagon (2.5L, 5-cyl, front wheel drive, auto, over 100K miles) that they have sitting around. I'd just have to drive it back from Wisconsin and do any maintenance that it needs. They say it runs well, but needs a battery.

Does anyone have any information on these as DD's? I want something that will be reliable and low-maintenance.

I have had a 1996 Volvo 850 turbo wagon since new and love it.   I worry that some idiot will run into me and I'll have to find a replacement.   The 1996 and 1997 models are considered to be the best years.

It has 255,000 miles and is still going strong.  Since I stopped going to the dealer and now take it to an independent shop, the maintenance costs have gone way down, but are still substantial.   The engine and turbo are completely original, but it is using maybe a quart of oil every 1000 miles.   The transmission suddenly lost reverse gear about 18 months ago and had to be replaced.   I'm sure that it could have been repaired, but time was more important than saving money at the time.

If you are concerned about safety, you can't beat it.   Besides all the air bags, the structure is designed for safety.   Before we bought it, we went to the L.A. Auto Show and looked at the naked body on display and talked with a Volvo engineer.   He pointed out all the area that were designed strong, and those that were designed to crush.   He described how the engine and transmission are designed to slide down and under the car in a bad frontal collision.   The showed us the structure under (and including) the seats that protect you in a T-bone.

We then went over to the UAW exhibit, where they had a Ford Taurus body.   After examining it, my wife turned to me and asked, "Where's the beef?"   It was that obvious a difference.   We went to the Volvo dealer, ordered the 850, and took delivery at the factory in Sweden.

Four years later, my wife needed a new car, and we bought a used 1998 Volvo 850 sedan.   Four days later, I was driving it to the dealer to give them the final check.   Traffic on the freeway came to a stop.   I stopped behind a large Dodge van.   I looked in the mirror and said, "OH SHIT!" as the Chevy behind me failed to notice that we had stopped.   The impact collapsed the trunk area and tore loose the shock absorbers.   It was pushed forward into the Dodge's bumper, wiping out all the front bodywork.   The passenger compartment was totally untouched.   I simply opened the door and stepped out.

The Chevy had to be swept up and hauled away on a flatbed.   I drove the Volvo to my insurance agent, and then to the body shop.   State Farm declared it a total loss and gave me a check for slightly more than the full purchase price (I had gotten a good deal on the car).

The day after we got the check, we went back to the same dealer and bought a new 2000 Volvo S70.   My wife still has it, and loves it.

The only problem is that my wife has forbidden me to get an 850/V70/S70 for Lemons racing.   She knows only too well how daily drivers are sometimes cannibalized.   I explained that I only did it twice, and it was just the battery, but she is firm.

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Oh, one other thing.   A little plastic gear in the odometer goes out at about 120,000 miles.   You can buy an after-market set for about $50 and replace it in a couple of hours of easy work.

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Re: '97 Volvo 850 as DD?

Volvo dude for 22 years.

850 NA is the best of the FWD volvos for reliability and DIY.  Still sucks compared to the red blocks but very DIY friendly.

1997 will have the occasional solenoid issue in the tranny, needs the PCV system maintined and likely will need the "bread tie fix" on the compressor pulley for the AC at some point.

Vac leaks are common and a pain.

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I would pick a Civic over an 850 for ease of trouble-free ops, easily. But for a teen driver, I'd want them to have the clear safety advantage of a Volvo. And if it were for my own use, I'd go with the BMW.

Not much in the way of useful input there, I realize.

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Yeah, If I had a spare Civic laying around that was close to usable, then I'd fix it up. I just scrapped two gutted ones, and my remaining Civic is track-car grade. I'd thought about buying a cheap EG with a bad head gasket and fixing it up, but if the Volvo is just sitting there............

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So much YES for an 850 if you can get one cheap. Make sure the automatic transmission (if equipped) has been changed regularly and if so it should be bullet proof. I just talked my niece into buying one for ~$2500.

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Re: '97 Volvo 850 as DD?

zanzabar88 wrote:

So much YES for an 850 if you can get one cheap. Make sure the automatic transmission (if equipped) has been changed regularly and if so it should be bullet proof. I just talked my niece into buying one for ~$2500.

I hope you forgot the word "fluid" in there...

Owning any vehicle that requires regularly changing the automatic transmission seems like a PITA...

smile

(Isn't that what a 90s Chrysler is, anyway?)

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Great cars, I took mine to about 160k miles without any major bother, only sold because it ate tyres (but was the 855R model with mucho horsepower and I drove it like Rickard Rydell).