New Hampshire race: good videos? opinions? praise or criticism? (Page 1 of 4)

Not us!

Class C is for masochists who enjoy humiliating themselves for the entertainment of others; I wouldn't have it any other way <3

I wouldn't lose sleep over it, although it's nice you're being conscious. It's a bunch of shitty cars and unseasoned drivers mixed in with actual RealRacers(tm) so obviously there's going to be some contact. As long as you don't get on the officials' bad side and do the right thing like the team that hit you did and apologize/communicate, you're fine. Anything you did or that was done to you that the judges/officials miss is only gonna make you feel bad so I would say let it go and focus on having fun in the next race.

I never heard of threats of like that at Loudon before. It’s Lemons, they should expect it

I agree with Chris.  I bet if you made the purse bigger in C, you would see a lot more class c cars, or a lot more bribing to get into C.

This is not unheard of honestly. Every time they have to hook up a car to the tow truck they are putting their workers in some amount of danger. If some team keeps fixing a car with duck tape and sending it out to break again and laughing it off, they stop seeing it as funny. I'm not accusing you of doing that BTW. But that is the view that the track workers can get when they pull the same car 4 times in a day. This is Lemons yes, but that doesn't mean we should be putting cars out we know will fail and need to be towed.

Source: I got the same warning one race at NHMS with the daytona when we had to get pulled a bunch of times.

We got screamed at years ago by a wrecker driver at NHMS. No idea why, he was too busy shouting his face red for us to understand. Its not the reason we don't go back (no good places to watch from) but it didn't help. All New England races suck IMHO. Miserable people up there...

Alright, well at least there's a consistency on record. We did sort of smarten up after the warning and took the car for a cruise around the paddock to further diagnose it, but in no way are we putting the car out thinking "well we'll get some laps before it breaks down and we can just get a tow back." Then again, given that ultimatum, the option to just say fuck it, try one more time and pack it in if we fail was present.

Thankfully they pushed us back out  on track without flaming us after we ran off trying to avoid contact (that's according to our driver at the time) and we ran the rest of Sunday with the new fuel pump

We also would like to apologize for holding up the top ten after the restart Sunday, we were pitted when the track shutdown and the guy let us stay out there - unfortunately our driver did not realize yellow does not mean slow if there's no one in front of you and a lot of impatient actual racers behind you waiting to get back in the action.

Damn, that's too bad. Whichever Lemons staff we talked too didn't really seem to know what the deal was - we only had a skateboard and were told that was cool - I was a little iffy about it but then I saw 500 bicycles and 2 motorcycles and I was like "oh I guess if we're in the wrong, we're not as bad. Our skateboard kid did get kicked off though, along with the other wheeled vehicles.

Had a chance to talk with one of the drivers of this car. And had a few laughs with them afterwards when taking their group picture. The 24 hours of Limes were pretty cool guys

A scary moment coming into turn 1

Another team where one of the drivers took the time and patience to talk to a spectator. These guys were running in the top 15 until right near the end. Think they ended up around 24th or so. Great run guys

OK, guessing these guys blew the motor in the race car and one of the wife's car "just happened" to have the same motor as the race car. Far as I can tell, they pulled the motor from the street car and put it in the race car. They were back out on the track later on. Kudos for the effort guys!

My buddy and I were so disappointed to see the Javelin come to a rest in front of us in turns 1 and 2 so close to the end of the race.
FWIW-while cleaning up, the sweeper tractor hit more cones than all the racers did all weekend...lol

To the tow part. You're at the mercy of the local workers for opinions. Some tracks have great staff who get what we're doing and think it's great. Some have more serious guys. I'm sure none of them like being out there with us whipping by, especially on days where we put someone down the hill within 10 minutes. Just keep that perspective.

As for track walks, every single track is different. However I've never heard of any that allow motorized vehicles. Most will allow bicycles, but that's it. Skateboards and other similar things are dangerous on NHMS because of the bowl. If you crash, now they have to take you to medical after hours. Like I said, most years that have not let us do a track walk at NHMS, so I was shocked to see the gate open and people headed out Friday night. We grabbed a beer and went walking because we like doing the walks and talking about how to drive the track. It made me sad to see the people out there clearly not looking to learn the track, just ripping around on pit bikes. When we got back in the guy did ask us not to bring beverages with us next time and we very politely apologized and said we would not next time, then thanked them for letting us walk the track.

General notes:

- You can only get towed so many times. That number is up to the Race Director and the safety crews, either of whom may have decided you were occupying too much of their time.

- You can only get told to "Fix your smoking car" so many times. If your first attempt or two doesn't work, then you're seen as a ticking time bomb for oiling down the track, which is dangerous and time-consuming.

- You only get told to fix a fuel leak once.

- You will very likely be asked to return to the judges/tech for show-and-tell on what you fixed, so spend the extra time to do it safely and correctly.

We got hit twice on Saturday and once on Sunday.  We also got rear ended at Thompson.  I understand that accidents are part of racing, but I'm getting sick of spending money and time repairing damage that we didn't cause. To many yahoos out there that just don't give a *#%@.  I hope that Lemons keeps the hammer down like they did on Sunday. The car that took us out for 2 hours also hit our garage mates, and at least one other team I'd talked to last weekend.

#frustrated

Seems to me that "Lemons" is allowing "speed creep" by not discouraging "cheaty" fast modifications ( giving penalty laps) and allowing newer faster cars, (to increase attendance) and at the same time discouraging slower, older cars (that are now considered "getting in the way, too slow, and a hazard"), and at the same time not encouraging people to build/bring really old cars, shitty builds (by giving them a discount?-I think any team that brings a Class C car should get a voucher for a big discount at their next race!)
All this for the sake of covering their expenses, making more $$, covering their losses at tracks with low turn out, etc.....which I understand).  Its probably tough to discourage paying customers to want to come....

But if you are allowing the pace of the race to increase in speed, seems to me that you will need to cut down on the total number of cars that are allowed to race...so,  many slower cars vs fewer faster cars?...at a race....since too many fast cars at a track (with not the best drivers)==too many accidents).  So is "Lemons" actually to blame that there were too many accidents?  I certainly remember the Lightening race in NJ, and it seemed like there were way too many cars there...and incidents
But then you got to do the math and figure out your profits???
I certainly appreciate "Lemons" being strict about aggressive drivers, not tolerating significant contact....it was encouraging to see them park aggressive drivers on Sunday...they weren't kidding....!

Anyways, where is this all heading??!!