1 Topic by OhYeahDant (edited by OhYeahDant 2024-02-26 07:53 PM)

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Topic: Proof of purchase?

Hey everyone, asking more FNG questions… when we are going through tech, how do you guys provide proof of purchase and the price of the vehicle to the inspectors? I’m just wondering what records to keep and what will be kinda redundant. I just want to make it smoothly throught tech when providing evidence of how much things cost, and it seems like (for good reason) the inspectors will be sticklers on price. Thanks in advance!

Edit: I’m talking more on the lines of initial purchase of the vehicle from a “soon to be previous owner”

1989 FORD ESCORT GT

2 Reply by BigBird (edited by BigBird 2024-02-26 08:12 PM)

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Re: Proof of purchase?

Nobody really needs to show proof of purchase,as the judges have a real good idea of what a particular car is 'worth'.
If you're worried,you can take a screenshot of a Craigslist/FB ad,or snap a pic of you handing the seller a stack of soiled 1's and 5's....

Don't overthink it...

Don't overthink it..

Don't overthink it.

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  • Registered: 2024-02-13
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Re: Proof of purchase?

BigBird wrote:

Nobody really needs to show proof of purchase,as the judges have a real good idea of what a particular car is 'worth'.
If you're worried,you can take a screenshot of a Craigslist/FB ad,or snap a pic of you handing the seller a stack of soiled 1's and 5's....

Don't overthink it...

Don't overthink it..

Don't overthink it.

Right. I was just gonna roll up with my bill of sale and a picture of the car on the trailer and the condition we bought it in. Runs and drives but CRUNCHED on one corner.

1989 FORD ESCORT GT
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Re: Proof of purchase?

BigBird wrote:

Nobody really needs to show proof of purchase,as the judges have a real good idea of what a particular car is 'worth'.
If you're worried,you can take a screenshot of a Craigslist/FB ad,or snap a pic of you handing the seller a stack of soiled 1's and 5's....

Don't overthink it...

Don't overthink it..

Don't overthink it.

+1.  The judges keep up with what things are going for on FB Marketplace and Craigslist. They also expect you to beg, plead, and argue if they propose penalty laps - they will be disappointed if you don't.  However, keep it good natured and all in fun; they'll get irritated if you really whine.  But don't stress; even if you get 10 or 20 penalty laps you still get to have fun racing all weekend.

What you bring makes a difference, too.  Unique or really off-the-wall entry? Judges won't ask what you spent.  24 year old New Beetle or Golf? They know the sunroof leaked for the last four years it was a daily driver, so it reeked of mold and mildew and was easy to find for Lemons money.  More recent BMW sedan or Miata? They'll look a lot harder.

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Re: Proof of purchase?

Stan in Bham wrote:
BigBird wrote:

Nobody really needs to show proof of purchase,as the judges have a real good idea of what a particular car is 'worth'.
If you're worried,you can take a screenshot of a Craigslist/FB ad,or snap a pic of you handing the seller a stack of soiled 1's and 5's....

Don't overthink it...

Don't overthink it..

Don't overthink it.

+1.  The judges keep up with what things are going for on FB Marketplace and Craigslist. They also expect you to beg, plead, and argue if they propose penalty laps - they will be disappointed if you don't.  However, keep it good natured and all in fun; they'll get irritated if you really whine.  But don't stress; even if you get 10 or 20 penalty laps you still get to have fun racing all weekend.

What you bring makes a difference, too.  Unique or really off-the-wall entry? Judges won't ask what you spent.  24 year old New Beetle or Golf? They know the sunroof leaked for the last four years it was a daily driver, so it reeked of mold and mildew and was easy to find for Lemons money.  More recent BMW sedan or Miata? They'll look a lot harder.

Oh yeah. It’s a 1989 Ford Escort with a bad alternator, both bumpers gone and the right rear quarter crunched in. If they’re not too stingy, then I’ll be good. I spent $100 and a 12pack of coors light on it. The bill of sale is on a scrap paper, and the money withdrawl has an e-receipt. So I figured that was good enough. Thanks for the insight!

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Re: Proof of purchase?

This is an excellent beginning - are you going for the Grand Prize of Lemons - the I.O.E.?

Also, I suggest you read the "stickies"  in the Newcomers section, including responses, as a starting point. Many of your next questions are already answered there. I lurked for a year and a half before registering to ask a question, and I was amazed at the knowledge and creativity I found in this forum.

Good luck with your build!

7 Reply by chaase (edited by chaase 2024-02-27 05:31 AM)

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Re: Proof of purchase?

OhYeahDant wrote:
Stan in Bham wrote:
BigBird wrote:

Nobody really needs to show proof of purchase,as the judges have a real good idea of what a particular car is 'worth'.
If you're worried,you can take a screenshot of a Craigslist/FB ad,or snap a pic of you handing the seller a stack of soiled 1's and 5's....

Don't overthink it...

Don't overthink it..

Don't overthink it.

+1.  The judges keep up with what things are going for on FB Marketplace and Craigslist. They also expect you to beg, plead, and argue if they propose penalty laps - they will be disappointed if you don't.  However, keep it good natured and all in fun; they'll get irritated if you really whine.  But don't stress; even if you get 10 or 20 penalty laps you still get to have fun racing all weekend.

What you bring makes a difference, too.  Unique or really off-the-wall entry? Judges won't ask what you spent.  24 year old New Beetle or Golf? They know the sunroof leaked for the last four years it was a daily driver, so it reeked of mold and mildew and was easy to find for Lemons money.  More recent BMW sedan or Miata? They'll look a lot harder.

Oh yeah. It’s a 1989 Ford Escort with a bad alternator, both bumpers gone and the right rear quarter crunched in. If they’re not too stingy, then I’ll be good. I spent $100 and a 12pack of coors light on it. The bill of sale is on a scrap paper, and the money withdrawl has an e-receipt. So I figured that was good enough. Thanks for the insight!

The judges won't care if its a Ford Escort. You've basically got budget immunity.You'll be put in class C with 0 laps. Give it a fun theme and make it safe.

1992 Saturn SL2 (retired) - Elmo's Revenge -  Class B winner, Heroic Fix winner x2
1969 Rover P6B 3500S(sold) - Super G-Rover - I.O.E Winner, Class C Winner
1996 Saturn SW2 - Elmo's Revenge (reborn!), Saturn SL1  Dazzleshipm Class C x2 and IOE winner
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Re: Proof of purchase?

We purchased a car that already raced in Lemons for a few years so it already had "established provenance" of being butt turrible.

Yeah, ford escort you'll be fine.

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Re: Proof of purchase?

I can't imagine anything but Class C zero laps.  No proof of purchase required, but I am sure the judges would love to see it anyways.

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Re: Proof of purchase?

Oh yeah. It’s a 1989 Ford Escort with a bad alternator, both bumpers gone and the right rear quarter crunched in. If they’re not too stingy, then I’ll be good. I spent $100 and a 12pack of coors light on it. The bill of sale is on a scrap paper, and the money withdrawl has an e-receipt. So I figured that was good enough. Thanks for the insight!

I stopped reading at "1989 Ford Escort" ... your fine lol. No need to prepare any sort of explanation or proof that your car sucks.

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Re: Proof of purchase?

Sierra RS?  Why you ruin Klassic?

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Re: Proof of purchase?

agreed, they are going to give you the class and laps that the judges want, and bribes of course, we have never been asked to show receipts

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Re: Proof of purchase?

bspeed wrote:

Sierra RS?  Why you ruin Klassic?

Lol just a GT, I wouldn't dain to put a car like that in here hahaha

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Re: Proof of purchase?

Thank you everyone for your help! I wasn't planning on winning anything, just to see my first race car leave the paddock in one piece haha. I'd LIKE to win something, even if it is the IOE award! Everyone here is super helpful!

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Re: Proof of purchase?

Lemon_Newton-Metre wrote:

This is an excellent beginning - are you going for the Grand Prize of Lemons - the I.O.E.?

Also, I suggest you read the "stickies"  in the Newcomers section, including responses, as a starting point. Many of your next questions are already answered there. I lurked for a year and a half before registering to ask a question, and I was amazed at the knowledge and creativity I found in this forum.

Good luck with your build!

I'm happy to win any award haha, even if it is the IOE! Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough for my question's answer lol, thanks!

1989 FORD ESCORT GT