more northeast races? (Page 3 of 4)

You oughta bring the 'bird to the 24hrs of nelson.  Probably could get it running w/ 24hrs of straight work.
Plus, we'd all be there to help, or hinder, or something.

I wish either Lemons or ChumpCar could work something out with NL for next year.  That is a great track and is 24 hour friendly.  The September NL-run UsedCar Racing event is just too risky to sign up for.  Nobody knows how many will show up, or what the format will be.

Which event are you talking about?

Also keep in mind I've heard they follow SCCA/NASA standards for the cages.  I've heard of a few people who have failed there tech but pass Lemons.

Yes, the September NL race is Labor Day weekend.  We would have considered it, but after the spring race cancelled, we didn't want to chance it.  We can only afford a few races this season, so we are doing the August ChumpCar and October Lemons races - both at GingerMan.  Had we signed up for the NL race rather than the October Lemons race and the NL race cancelled, we'd be entry deadline and therefor the Lemons race too.

Lemons didn't want to come back from what I'd heard.

The powers that be were concerned with safety at NL.

As I just said on the CC forum, I don't buy the safety risk argument.  The NL race was a huge success and we saw no major incidents at all other than the Caddy into the bridge.  Even that didn't result in a DNF.  Some of the westcoast tracks have 4-5 rollovers in a weekend and nobody is screaming for them to be taken off the schedule.  I love how there are no big braking zones at NL resulting in fewer dive bomb passes and cars forced off track.  Personally, I think NL saw the huge turnout and tried to raise the rental fees.  That likely pissed Jay off and he walked away from the table.  Claiming safety concerns is an easier sell to the Lemons community than less profit in his pocket.  I could be all wrong, but that's my take...

I'd love for another full 24 hour race at NL. 

-Scott

we briefly considered the Labor Day race there this fall, but it was scheduled against other events and we decided not to go.  I would still like to race there again, hopefully in 2011 with one of the series.

Porkchops - I'm of the 180 degree opposite opinion.  I once watched a pro-rally car roll where the driver instinctively stuck his arm out the window to 'stop' the roll. He came 'this close' to chopping his arm off.    Personally I'd never race a car without a net.    The probelm you had a Gingerman wasn't due to having a net, it was due to having an improperly installed net.  Done right, releasing a net is as easy as releasing your belts.

As a group we are pretty good and safe drivers.  I thought for sure someone would "Dukes of Hazard" off the start of the carousel last weekend, but I don't think it happened.  I watched a car "lip out" and into the grass, but no 40 foot jumps. 

I get the feeling that the Lemons organizers think we're a scary group that is going to do something stupid.  Heck, we ran at ledges without real incident in a 24 hour race and 125+ cars but it was still deemed unsafe.  At Summit we were routinely hitting 95 twice per lap with precious little run off room.  head scratcher to me

I seem to recall Jay addressing this once upon a time. Maybe back on the Yahoo group? Anyway, my takeaway from it was that not adding chicanes had a lot to do with liability in case somebody gets hurt/killed. If the track is unsafe as designed and operated by the track operator, then it would be harder for a plaintiff to pin that part of the lawsuit on Lemons. But if Lemons comes along and artificially modifies a track (say, by adding chicanes), and then somebody gets hurt by running through a tire wall chicane, then it's easy to pin that on Lemons.

Or something like that.

Plus we all bitch and moan to the nth degree when there are chicanes anyway, which definitely does not add to the fun quotient.