1 (edited by coco 2010-08-18 08:31 AM)

Topic: American Irony - the book

REMOVED THE BOOK FOR NOW BECAUSE SOMEONE MIGHT NOT LIKE BEING IN IT AND CAN SUE ME.

Fukushima Sushi Delivery
POS 325e

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Looks pretty nice.

3 (edited by m610 2010-08-17 07:25 PM)

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Blurb is great. I've made several books with them. I'm doing a Tinyvette book for our team, but they don't know it yet.

Edit - I ordered one. Thanks.

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coco wrote:

REMOVED THE BOOK FOR NOW BECAUSE SOMEONE MIGHT NOT LIKE BEING IN IT AND CAN SUE ME.

actually when you sign waivers to enter a Lemons event you sign away all your rights for publicity essentially. I'm more interested in getting recognition as being a nutjob who loves these events anyway than the $12 I could -possibly- get from someone making something and selling it to the other nutjobs... repost and request people identify themselves so they can receive credit where it's due.

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Serj wrote:

actually when you sign waivers to enter a Lemons event you sign away all your rights for publicity essentially.

I don't think that's quite true. Sure, Rule 1.7 says that you sign away all your rights to publicity, but only to Lemons HQ itself , not to every Tom, Dick, and Harry on the planet:

"You and your brilliant, pithy utterances may be photographed, recorded, or otherwise reproduced and re-used whenever and wherever the heck the Organizers like...."

That said, I agree with your sentiment. Unfortunately, the law regarding the right to publicity varies from state to state, which is why you see all the blurred out faces and taped-over logos on reality TV shows like Mythbusters. Which sucks, from an aesthetic standpoint.

I suspect that Lemons HQ might be able to expand the wording of Rule 1.7, but I don't know how much scrutiny that would stand up to in a court of law.

There is a way to kind of get around this by forming a single-purpose corporation that would be the owner/copyright holder of the work (or works, if he wants to do a series of Lemons books), and then if someone were to sue the entity, what are they going to get? But that involves probably more corporate formation paperwork, fees, etc. than most small book authors are willing to invest (or should have to, frankly, but that's editorializing).

Pat Mulry, TARP Racing #67

Mandatory disclaimer: all opinions expressed are mine alone & not those of 24HOL, its mgmt, sponsors, etc.

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Isn't there a "reasonable expectation of privacy" concept involved here as well. It wasn't exactly a private event.

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I've thought about this, and it isn't really any different than all these photos of people being on Flickr that a lot of people here post links to.  My original post also said that there was no profit on this book.  The price people pay is what blurb.com charges, not me.  That said, if some a-hole doesn't get this and wants to sue me, I don't feel like paying all the costs involved to defend myself.  Plus, Blago's lawyer might be busy for a while.

All that said, send me an e-mail if you think you might want a copy for your own private use and entertainment without the express written consent of Major League Baseball. smile

Fukushima Sushi Delivery
POS 325e

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"reasonable expectation of privacy" only applies really to hospital rooms, bathrooms, and your own home. I read up a lot on this at one point. im not a lawyer/cop/professionally representative entity so don't take my word for it, but im pretty sure this isn't a private venue, despite the gate fees.

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The easiest way around this is for Coco to be one of the organizers of the event.  If he is formally associated with them as part of the organization then the publication release we sign covers him.

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It's kind of related to a reasonable expectation of privacy concept. If you really want to bore yourself to tears, google "right to publicity" and start reading. Probably more effective than an Ambien if you need to get to sleep.

Pat Mulry, TARP Racing #67

Mandatory disclaimer: all opinions expressed are mine alone & not those of 24HOL, its mgmt, sponsors, etc.

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As captain of TBP, I authorize you to use our names and likenesses. Now, get the other team captains to do the same, and you're set. Mostly. Where's my copy?

Captain: Speedycop & The Gang Of Outlaws -'94 Mark VIII (Least Horrible Yank Tank Stafford '09, NOLA '10) '61 Caddy (Org Choice-NL '09) '63 Tbird (EPIC Repair Failure-Gingerman '10, I Got Screwed-Summit Pt '10, I.O.E. WINNER Stafford '10!) '77 Lancia Scorpion (I.O.E. WINNER Joliet 2010!) '67 Galaxie 500 (Judges Choice-CMP '11)
Future Fleet: 1957 Ford Prefect 1942 Buick 1959 Bugeye Project GLCOAT

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Team Fiery Death!  allows all usage of our likeness.  Why you would want to is your own business.

Bloomington, IN
We'll bring Beer!  Motorsports
Team Fiery Death! #0 2009 Lamest Day(65th), 2010 American Irony(24th), 2010 Detroit Bull(4th),2012 Capitol Offense (8th) 2012 American Irony (11 th), 2013 Capitol Offense (3rd) 2013 Chubba Chedder (4th, Judge Choice!) Now sadly part of a scrap pile. 
Toothless Racing Deadbeats #110 2011 Summit Point (61st) Currently being rebuilt into the new car!

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Team Tinyvette hereby authorizes you all to use photos and video of the car and it's captain (can't speak for other members), and Phtotoshopped derivatives, in pretty much anything except kiddie porn, material support for terrorists, being mean to dogs, or anything that would bring the IRS to my door.

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Snoopy van and Woodstock gives the ok  team members don't care

It Ain't My Fault

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As does Team Lebowski!!!

"Don't mess with Lexas!"
Former Captain, Team Lebowski

16 (edited by Serj 2010-08-24 08:08 PM)

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Track Pillagerz! hearby authorizes coco/his immediate associates to use media collected at the 24 Hours of Lemons event "American Irony" (Gingerman raceway event; April 2010) for promotional/community sharing use with relation to said venue, event, and motorsports topic. He is free to retain reasonable publicity and any profit revenue not exceeding $2500 US Dollars related to said sharing/use of media. If ever this is exceeded(YEAH RIGHT!) then the Track Pillagerz! retain the right to negotiate for some insignificant percentage exceeding the aforementioned threshold dollar amount.


is that comfortable enough for you? smile I don't personally see you making the NYTimes Best-Seller list so you should be worry-free.

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Team Spec Junk Racing has signed off....  Hell, my "Drag" race was on Youtube that Monday.  I don't think there's anything else you can publish to top that!

Eric
the 323 Mx-3

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The book just arrived. Thanks. Looks great. Do another.