Various questions on my Most Stupid Idea build (Page 1 of 2)

This is not a flame.  Read the rules.

Start by reading the rules.

You've effectively asked one question in your post... and it's clearly answered in the rules.

In short:  Firewalls are metal and must have no open holes or gaps larger than 1/2" in diameter.

You are right. I've read the rules so many times... I've just forgotten.

Still,
What are your thoughts on FIA vs OEM in non-stock location?

OK.  As a fellow who has done a bit of this kind of thing...

If you are going to move the fuel tank and not get an FIA one, get a steel can fuel tank like they sell at JEGS.  They are under $200.  You will still have to make a cover for it out of metal.  Use aluminum sheet, glue, and rivets.  All seams should be glued AND riveted.  Carbon would be a great idea if you dropped the $$ for high temp resin.  That cover in carbon will cost about $500 for the materials.  Go aluminum.

Make sure you mount the tank very solidly.  It will weigh 100lbs when full and in a roll over crash you will be very unhappy if it breaks free and sends streams of fuel everywhere. 

Where is the engine going?  What kind of car?

One cautionary note. I think that the work you did on the last car was fabulous and you deserve your awards. But also note that it may have had the effect of branding you as someone willing to go outside the box -- not a bad thing -- but in terms of fuel cell issues, there is no tolerance for outside the box thinking. Or so it seems. If you think that your car got scrutinized closely the last time you went through tech using a stock fuel tank in the stock position, you have no idea what you're about to run into if you go with this idea. It's the difference between a prostate exam and a colonoscopy. Neither one is a lot of fun, but one has you only bent over for a second humming "Moon River" and the other one has you lying on a table for a good while longer, meanwhile a doctor is ramming something in that most delicate of places, all for your own good. Maybe there's a better metaphor out there somewhere?...

Anyway, I'm not trying to discourage you, just want to make sure you're aware of the pitfalls before you start swinging over the gorge. Jay's band of merry scrutineers will go over any fuel tank mods with a fine tooth comb and won't think twice about bouncing you out of tech for what you might consider to be a trivial oversight or construction flaw. So if you're going to do it, make sure that you've got it locked down. And pre-teched well in advance would be a good idea too. Cheers and good luck.

Good idea. Email sent.

If that's contextually correct (ie. number of stars = correct number of letters) I think I know what you are planning and you're right, you have no choice but to put it in the passenger compartment.  You sick sick man.

John,

Jay made it pretty clear he never wanted to see the Integra again.

What happened to the plan to combine the CRX left at the track and the Integra.

The CRX was fairly complete with a pretty good looking cage.

Our Z is a hatchback with a fuel cell in the rear hatch and the cage protects it.  It is covered in a metal all the way around too.

We have a passenger seat to do instruction, I am sure you and many of your team mates would all benefit from some god instruction. 

We take the passenger seat out during races and put in a water holder.

If you show up with another car like the Integra, your efforts are not as likely to be as well rewarded. 

The SHO's guys first engne swap at MSR was pretty heroic.  When they had to do the same thing at their second race, it was like did you learn anything the first time?

Inadvertent or not, that was funny...

You know you are retarded when Jay calls you a whackjob! :-)

Maybe paint a bullseye like the Cajuns.

I have desided to go with a FIA and a firewall.

Anyone got a FIA Cell kicking around they want to trade for a lemony 2001 Ninja 900 or a massive T3 turbo I bought new 6 years ago, but never used?

so, the new rule update for fuel cell location will make my Twin Engine CRX impossible. there just isnt enough room. i could put a small cell in each engine compartment, but even I draw the safty line with fuel heating.

The CRX is just too small. Maybe I can convince Sergio to let me do it to the SHO. I could easily fit the cell in the back seat, and a second motor in the trunk. The extra horsepower will make up for the fact that he must now run with his doors.

Can you put the fuel tank on a trailer and tow it behind the car? I haven't seen a rule prohibiting trailers. Fab up two trailers and fuel stops can be really quick and won't even need a two-person crew with fire suits.

I know, bad idea, but it's interesting to consider the possibilities.