Topic: Thanks for an awesome weekend in Joliet!!!!!!

I'm finally home, after 17 hours in the truck. Ron and Tom just left for SC and FL. I can't thank everyone enough for all the help. Without us all pulling together, the team wouldn't have earned its second I.O.E.! The car has a ton of potential, and is unbelieveably cool to watch go around the track, IMO. Once we get it handling properly, it will be much more of a contender. Motor mounts, exhaust, suspension rebuild, chassis reinforcement, and removal of dead weight (AC, etc.) is all in the works. As-is, it finished 44th out of 87, so right in the middle. That's after lengthy delays for the Speed TV host to drive it, two other unscheduled drivers getting a short stint, and then Randy Pobst going out for the last half hour. That guy is unreal!

I'm not 100% certain yet, but the tentative plan is to run it in New Orleans next month. I need to find a few more extremely skilled drivers to have a real shot at overall. BTW, I had my first spin ever Sunday! Rolled into the penalty box yelling "I DID IT! I'M GUILTY!" Jay asked why I spun, and I said "I wanted to find out how fast I couldn't go".That seemed to be the correct response.I gotta get used to this rear engine thing. With 420 treadwear tires and no power steering, I couldn't correct fast enough when the oversteer snapped back the other way. Of course, our incredibly poor/unpredictable handling and horrid chassis flex could not have helped. Those of you who saw the Lancia rocking violently side to side at random intervals know what I'm talking about. I have lots more welding to do...

Thanks again to Jay and the staff! This was my tenth Lemons race, and it was certainly memorable. You all rock!

Captain: Speedycop & The Gang Of Outlaws -'94 Mark VIII (Least Horrible Yank Tank Stafford '09, NOLA '10) '61 Caddy (Org Choice-NL '09) '63 Tbird (EPIC Repair Failure-Gingerman '10, I Got Screwed-Summit Pt '10, I.O.E. WINNER Stafford '10!) '77 Lancia Scorpion (I.O.E. WINNER Joliet 2010!) '67 Galaxie 500 (Judges Choice-CMP '11)
Future Fleet: 1957 Ford Prefect 1942 Buick 1959 Bugeye Project GLCOAT

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Congrats on the well-earned victory. When you build something like this, I believe you can accurately measure the amount of effort that goes into these cars by the layer of "residue" that sprinkles down on the ground underneath them while building it. When I saw it Saturday morning, this layer was about 3" high.

The Charnal House Geo MetSHO: Turning less laps than a regular Metro, the hard way!

1969 Subaru 360

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Yeah, it had a ton of rust falling off the front end when we pulled the Scorp radiator. I didn't realize it, but a teammate threw it away. The core wasn't worth much, but it had two nice original Scorp fans that would have brought $30-40 each.

Any good drivers wanna run with me in New Orleans?

Captain: Speedycop & The Gang Of Outlaws -'94 Mark VIII (Least Horrible Yank Tank Stafford '09, NOLA '10) '61 Caddy (Org Choice-NL '09) '63 Tbird (EPIC Repair Failure-Gingerman '10, I Got Screwed-Summit Pt '10, I.O.E. WINNER Stafford '10!) '77 Lancia Scorpion (I.O.E. WINNER Joliet 2010!) '67 Galaxie 500 (Judges Choice-CMP '11)
Future Fleet: 1957 Ford Prefect 1942 Buick 1959 Bugeye Project GLCOAT

Re: Thanks for an awesome weekend in Joliet!!!!!!

Speedycop wrote:

Yeah, it had a ton of rust falling off the front end when we pulled the Scorp radiator. I didn't realize it, but a teammate threw it away. The core wasn't worth much, but it had two nice original Scorp fans that would have brought $30-40 each.

Any good *SKINNY*drivers wanna run with me in New Orleans?

fixed it smile

that is a seriously small seat.

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The Lancia with the suspension fixed, motor mounts repaired/replaced, and some more "real" bracing" and that thing will be on rails... which meands we need good tires. Power is there *sort of* but the car has got serious potential!

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Always running on E \ ' ' ' ' F 
Speedycop and the Gang of Outlaws Official Ten+ Time Loser
Owner #132 Lancia/Toyota Beta/MR2 Scorpion

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I just need to figure out what Randy Pobst was doing to get 1:22.3 out of it as-is!

Captain: Speedycop & The Gang Of Outlaws -'94 Mark VIII (Least Horrible Yank Tank Stafford '09, NOLA '10) '61 Caddy (Org Choice-NL '09) '63 Tbird (EPIC Repair Failure-Gingerman '10, I Got Screwed-Summit Pt '10, I.O.E. WINNER Stafford '10!) '77 Lancia Scorpion (I.O.E. WINNER Joliet 2010!) '67 Galaxie 500 (Judges Choice-CMP '11)
Future Fleet: 1957 Ford Prefect 1942 Buick 1959 Bugeye Project GLCOAT

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Speedycop wrote:

I just need to figure out what Randy Pobst was doing to get 1:22.3 out of it as-is!

lots of drifting

Pendejo - There is no such thing as a racing budget and if you can't afford to set it on fire and watch it burn while drinking a beer then don't race it.

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I apparently got a 1:25 in the buick big_smile

put a bigger seat in it and maybe I'll try shoehorning myself in.

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My spiel, written for another forum...

I'll start off by saying,

WE WON THE IOE!!!

http://www.ronman.org/pics/Lemons/chi10/IMG_8222.jpg

Tom and I got to Speedycop's house late Wed. evening. While Tom and Jeff worked on the car, I got to drive 2 more hours to go get a set of new Kumho Ecsta ASX tires that Jeff scored on Craigslist for cheap.

Thursday morning we were up early and started work on the car. Lots of things still needed done, like wiring up the kill switch, getting the engine to start, making the brakes work, etc. - you know, the little things.
Also, we had bought a '91 Celica GTS for $200 for its engine. Apparently the Celica motor requires negligible changes for it to work in an MR2. So, the motor had to come out of that.

We worked all morning getting stuff done on the MR2 and getting the motor out, and I got sent out around 2:30pm to go chase parts, get the tires mounted, and get welder and plasma cutter supplies. This kept me out til well after dark, and the double-fatality accident on the only road to and from the shop of the buddy who was mounting the tires for us only added to that. We had anticipated leaving the DC area just after the afternoon rush hour, so around 7pm... I think it was somewhere near 8:30 when I got back to the house.

I got my truck unloaded and saw the progress they had made in my absence and it was good. We still had to mount the seat and harness, wire up the radios, and a whole lot of other stuff that I can't even remember. Nevertheless, after a break to eat dinner, we resumed work on the car and finally, around 2:30am, decided that we needed to just load the tools and the car, shower and get on the road.
We finally left right around 3:30am, and after a relatively uneventful (by our standards, meaning no double-blowouts) drive arrived at the track at 5pm Friday.

As we started unloading the car, the crowd started to grow. We knew we had a hit on our hands, and more racers and the Judges came over to see what we had wrought.

It was then that we started running down the checklist of what all needed to be done. While others started building the cooling system, I set to work on the completely-shot d/s front inner tie rod. After lots of fighting unsuccessfully, a self-proclaimed MR2 expert and engineering student offered up his totally badass, giant Knipex pliers and it came right off. Go figure. Unable to source a replacement, and unable to source a close-enough substitute meant we had to improvise.
This was done by means of an oxy-acetylene torch and a 3lb sledge, using a 6-ton jackstand as an anvil. Surprisingly, it actually worked. We were able to get the opening in the socket to close down on the ball enough to remove almost all the slop caused by the completely-missing interface material. We shot it full of Mobil 1 grease after it cooled and I put it back together. Then, I got to do a full tune-up on the car, which it turns out was desperately needed. The plug wells were full of oil and all the plugs were well worn and over .060" gap. Also, the wire boots were cracked and the rotor was completely corroded. So, new plugs/wires/cap/rotor and a new cam cover gasket with new plug well seals and we were ready to move on to something else. Since my only other 2.2 experience comes from Camrys, I was really surprised to see the complete lack of oil sludge in the head.
Anyway, we hit the button and it started right up and purred like a 2.2L kitten. I then set about working on getting the cooling system to burp. I don't remember a whole lot after that aside from getting the brake lights to come on.

Saturday morning we still had plenty of stuff to do (again, not much of which I can remember) and so, in the rain, we set about trying to align the front end using nothing more than our eyes and a simple spring-loaded toe-in/out checker. We drove it into the tech shed for inspection and, even though everything safety-related checked out, we were failed for a very small pinhole leak in our radiator just below the inlet. We tried to convince the inspector that straight water dripping slowly onto a rain-soaked track on a day where it's actively pouring down wasn't an issue, but he insisted that it was. So, back to the trailer for a JB Kwik fix. Rolled it back through and he was satisfied, so 20 minutes after the green had dropped, we were on the track.
About 30 minutes later Jeff came back in complaining of horrible handling and we redid the front alignment and tried to get the rear tie rods to break loose so we could align it. Some heat from a neighboring team's torch and the special Knipex pliers again saved the day and we were back out within 30 minutes.

After that, driver changes went normally, and we spent an incredibly uneventful day on the track... uneventful, except for the NPR reporter who was covering the race and came over to interview Jeff and I about our team. That was cool.

He actually wound up coming by Saturday night and had beer and fried turkey with us and the Lemons staffers and lots of other racers. Next time I'll have to remember to bring a second fryer and do more than 30lb of bird... we got to bed around 2am Sunday, and were up at 7:30am to do a couple little things to the car and make breakfast. Since I was mostly on cooking/photography duty I made sure we ate well. We fired up 6lb of bacon on the grill (on a cast griddle) and made some eggs.

We were on the track for green, and ran another uneventful day. Right up til the crew from Speed TV's "Lucas Oil - On the Edge" came over to do a piece on us. They interviewed a couple of us and then jumped at Jeff's offer to drive the car. So, we loaded it up with HD cameras, strapped the host in and sent him out for 20 minutes or so. He loved it.

And then, after that, veteran road racer Randy Pobst came over and was offered a seat. He actually finished the race for us, and was consistently 3 sec/lap faster than our fastest (Jeff's) all weekend. His 1:22s in a cobbled-together mishmash of two cars were truly impressive. :up:

http://www.ronman.org/pics/Lemons/chi10/IMG_8549.jpg

Throughout the race we had been told that, although we were running an awesome car, the purple '89 Olds Ciera and the 3-cylinder Geo were the real IOE contenders because we were like 30 laps behind them. So, falling for that, we expected to get Organizer's Choice or something like that, so when they announced the winner of that, we were truly confused. Then, when they pulled out the unique-to-this-race MR2 Cup trophy, and gave it to another team, we were surprised yet again. When it came time for the IOE announcement, Jay Lamm started talking like it'd be someone else, but then went into our story and we knew it was coming.

http://www.ronman.org/pics/Lemons/chi10/IMG_8622.jpg

After we got the check and were mostly packed, and after most people had left, I pulled out the Celica airbag I had brought with me, and we found an unused bag of Bisquick which I perforated with my knife. While I was poking it, someone said we should stage a pic where it looked like I was cutting lines, so we found a razor.

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And then I set off the airbag. Apparently blowing airbags in the paddock is an uncommon thing, because almost everyone was surprised at how violently the bag exploded. I was just amazed by how far in the air it shot flour, and by the big chunk of bag and flour that flew across the ground and hit Jay Lamm's rental car in the wheel. :teehee:

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Among my favorites this weekend:

  • The Crown Vic with a stripper pole mated to the cage and three real strippers doing shows in the paddock during downtime

  • The first-gen Geo Metro with a widebody kit and a second-gen Taurus SHO engine under the hatchback.

  • The carpet-covered Neon homage to the Mutt Cutts van from "Dumb and Dumber"

  • The Track Pillagerz! Park Avenue, which I've always been a fan of. The team is good people, too.

  • The G-body Grand Prix with authentic pine log bumpers.

There was only one serious accident all weekend, when a first-gen MR2 driver, on the 4th lap of a full-course yellow, was fiddling around with a zip tie on his shifter instead of watching the track, and sped up instead of slowing down and seeing the traffic piling up in front of him... and proceeded to rear-end a CRX hard enough to total both the CRX and the 240Z in front of it. The MR2 had "bull bars" for a front end, but because they were contained within the original body lines of the car, it passed inspection. We're expecting a rule change soon as a result of this.

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Official photographer/Team Police Brutality|Speedycop & the Gang
Lackey-mechanic-whatever/NSF Racing
Sycophant/Judge Phil, Jay Lamm, Kim Harmon
Galaxie Driver/not Parnelli Jones

Re: Thanks for an awesome weekend in Joliet!!!!!!

Speedycop wrote:

Yeah, it had a ton of rust falling off the front end when we pulled the Scorp radiator. I didn't realize it, but a teammate threw it away. The core wasn't worth much, but it had two nice original Scorp fans that would have brought $30-40 each.

Any good drivers wanna run with me in New Orleans?

If you can't get anyone good, I'll come run with ya again lol

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Park Avenue? dude! It's a LeSabre! tongue

how convenient of you leaving out the Hijinks with the Chicken on the way to the track too, lol.

you guys are still nuts, I love it. maybe I'll have to build up something less sane for more fun time.

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Yes, I would love to drive your car.  How could I not???

I'm also on the TetanusNeon Team... actually I'm either the captain this race or next race (who keeps track?   Oh yeah, the husband).  But still - how could I not want to drive such an awesome machine?  I'm already all paid up and stuff, so that's not a problem.

Here are my pledges, if you let me drive:
1) I pledge that the red mist won't find me.
2) I pledge that if I will do everything possible NOT to pass under yellow.  And if I do pass under yellow, I will be very VERY sorry.
3) I pledge that I will not oversell my driving skill.  It's kinda... mediocre.  I won't get any medals, but I won't be a rolling roadblock, either.
4) I pledge that I willing to lean on/help with/support any ongoing repairs.  Unless the Tetanus is also broken.  Then, sorry, I have to go with my first love: a 1995 SOHC Dodge Neon.  I know, I know, first love is so illogical.
5) I pledge to giggle while driving.  A lot.
6) I pledge to bring Pledge.  Just 'cause.

Anyhoodle, LA will be awesome regardless.  See you there!

I'm the doctor who is a wife. Which makes the grease hard to explain to my patients... www.tetanusneon.com.

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Serj wrote:

how convenient of you leaving out the Hijinks with the Chicken on the way to the track too, lol.

you guys are still nuts, I love it. maybe I'll have to build up something less sane for more fun time.

Hey, you gave us a turkey leg at Summit Point. It was only fair that I give you a fried chicken leg. Of course, I didn't have to wedge it in your rental truck's door handle at a service plaza when you weren't around, and my teammate didn't necessarily have to empty the trash from my truck into your race car, but our fun starts before we even reach the track.

Build another IOE car. While rock solid and quick, the Buick has been done. We still love it and its theme, but my automotive ADD kicks in every time, so build new cars I must.

Captain: Speedycop & The Gang Of Outlaws -'94 Mark VIII (Least Horrible Yank Tank Stafford '09, NOLA '10) '61 Caddy (Org Choice-NL '09) '63 Tbird (EPIC Repair Failure-Gingerman '10, I Got Screwed-Summit Pt '10, I.O.E. WINNER Stafford '10!) '77 Lancia Scorpion (I.O.E. WINNER Joliet 2010!) '67 Galaxie 500 (Judges Choice-CMP '11)
Future Fleet: 1957 Ford Prefect 1942 Buick 1959 Bugeye Project GLCOAT

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Sean, I would LOVE to have you run with us again! I'm trying to find skilled drivers with rear-weight-bias experience to give me a better shot at overall. MR Scorpion II is different than anything I've raced before. I had my first racing spin ever Sunday! All these years I've prided myself on skid control, and the streak is over.

Doctawife, I really appreciate the offer, but we have a rule against giggling, and it is strictly enforced. wink

Captain: Speedycop & The Gang Of Outlaws -'94 Mark VIII (Least Horrible Yank Tank Stafford '09, NOLA '10) '61 Caddy (Org Choice-NL '09) '63 Tbird (EPIC Repair Failure-Gingerman '10, I Got Screwed-Summit Pt '10, I.O.E. WINNER Stafford '10!) '77 Lancia Scorpion (I.O.E. WINNER Joliet 2010!) '67 Galaxie 500 (Judges Choice-CMP '11)
Future Fleet: 1957 Ford Prefect 1942 Buick 1959 Bugeye Project GLCOAT

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Update:
I've decided our best overall bet right now is the Lincoln. That thing is a monster, especially with the new 22 gallon tank. A fresh 5 speed and fresh tires/pads, and she's good to go. The lights already have mounting holes and wiring from VIR, though I will add a set of outboard lights. Any good theme ideas?

Captain: Speedycop & The Gang Of Outlaws -'94 Mark VIII (Least Horrible Yank Tank Stafford '09, NOLA '10) '61 Caddy (Org Choice-NL '09) '63 Tbird (EPIC Repair Failure-Gingerman '10, I Got Screwed-Summit Pt '10, I.O.E. WINNER Stafford '10!) '77 Lancia Scorpion (I.O.E. WINNER Joliet 2010!) '67 Galaxie 500 (Judges Choice-CMP '11)
Future Fleet: 1957 Ford Prefect 1942 Buick 1959 Bugeye Project GLCOAT

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hey jeff. what's the details on the seat for the bayou bid?

Re: Thanks for an awesome weekend in Joliet!!!!!!

$600 all-inclusive, just show up and race.

I try to run each race as cheaply as possible for guest drivers. A flat arrive-and-drive fee works out better than trying to calculate costs and split totals afterward. I always wind up paying far more, but then it's my team and car, so that's the way it goes. For $600, you'll likely get 4-6 hours of seat time in a well-prepped, incredibly fast, very predictable race car that has a real shot at overall. If we win, each driver gets $150 back. Considering the fast car, and the 20 hour tow each way, that's a bargain.

We ran VIR in this car in April, and would have been on the podium easily if not for lackadaisical pit times, and one REALLY slow driver. It never missed a beat! We finished 5th, but we should have won. My guys were often nowhere to be found for pit stops, we didn't have radios, and the guys had the attitude that there was no hurry, we had 24 hours. Pit stops shouldn't take 15 minutes each. Now, we have a new 22 gallon FIA cell that fills quickly. We have the clutch cable problem solved. We have good brakes, finally. Plus, I'm doing some chassis stiffening that can only help make the handling even better.

Captain: Speedycop & The Gang Of Outlaws -'94 Mark VIII (Least Horrible Yank Tank Stafford '09, NOLA '10) '61 Caddy (Org Choice-NL '09) '63 Tbird (EPIC Repair Failure-Gingerman '10, I Got Screwed-Summit Pt '10, I.O.E. WINNER Stafford '10!) '77 Lancia Scorpion (I.O.E. WINNER Joliet 2010!) '67 Galaxie 500 (Judges Choice-CMP '11)
Future Fleet: 1957 Ford Prefect 1942 Buick 1959 Bugeye Project GLCOAT

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Speedycop wrote:

Any good theme ideas?

GI Joe Thunder Machine!
http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/86/thundermachine/thundermachine_title.jpg

The Charnal House Geo MetSHO: Turning less laps than a regular Metro, the hard way!

1969 Subaru 360

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see, I was thinking "Scorponok" from the Transformers until Jeff mentioned the Lincoln's coming back. well, maybe it could still work!
http://deepeshk.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/scorponok.jpg

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How about 'Kiss My CoonAss' Lincoln?

Speedycop/NSF Racing /Pinewood Dirtbags
'10 Summit, CMP3, Autobahn, '11 CMP1, NJMP, CMP2, Summit, G'man, Stafford, Charlotte, Autobahn, ECR '12 CMP1, NJMP, G'man, NHMS1, Summit, CMP2, NHMS2, ECR, '13 CMP1, ECR, Summit, NJMP, THill, CMP2, MSR, NHMS, Sears '14 Barber, Sears1, ECR, CMP1, NJMP1, BWillow, Sebring, CMP2, THill, Sears2, '15 Sears1, Barber, Ridge, THill, '16 Sears1

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Jeff; I'm trying to work out a way to pull off joining you guys. probably not a good idea to hold your breath though...

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DO IT.

Captain: Speedycop & The Gang Of Outlaws -'94 Mark VIII (Least Horrible Yank Tank Stafford '09, NOLA '10) '61 Caddy (Org Choice-NL '09) '63 Tbird (EPIC Repair Failure-Gingerman '10, I Got Screwed-Summit Pt '10, I.O.E. WINNER Stafford '10!) '77 Lancia Scorpion (I.O.E. WINNER Joliet 2010!) '67 Galaxie 500 (Judges Choice-CMP '11)
Future Fleet: 1957 Ford Prefect 1942 Buick 1959 Bugeye Project GLCOAT