2011 Rules Updates (Page 3 of 5)

WOW I get to hit all three .

1)   YES I NEED TO DESTROY A CAR I"M GOING THRU WITHDRAWALS  .  THere was a bunch of Assholes out at Buttonwillow .Might I say when your driving a Limo you get all the assholes near you.

2) OEM HOOD   I got a Hummer hood on a Honda  cut 16" out of center with fancy lexan view of engine. Oh and it tilts forward .

3)Fuel Jugs 5 gallons suck  !!
   a) But what if we all had to fuel up at gas station.
   b)I was looking at my 5 gal race cans with the 2-3 filler  and they do good if the vent works . So I was thinking of  drilling a hole on bottom of can get a   bulkhead ftting and open that when fueling considering it would be above the fuel it would come out fast as it can with 3/4 adapter for unleaded filler
c) Break out unleaded trapdoor  HMMM  but sometimes that helps for baacksplash Maybe  anyone brake those so the 1" hose would fit??

We bought the 5 gallon jugs from Jegs with the hose attached to the cap. They have a vent on the handle. We could drain the entire 5 gallons in under a minute filling our OEM tank on the Buick G body car. It's super simple too, just remove the wine cork stopper, stuff the hose in the filler, and lift the jug.

Quit over thinking it.

Um, since you obviously have never looked or cared to look at the hood we had on the miatastang,  it copnsisted of the original hood that was de-skinned, and a skinned foxbody hood with about ten self tapping sheetmetal screws holing them together. It was flimsy at best.

Ahhh, my apologies I though you were lameting an OEM hardware only situation.  You are correct, I doubt self tapping sheetmetal screws would count as "strong fasteners"  (although I do love them)

this bears repeating.  i'm continually surprised by the number of people who see a rule change and automatically throw up their hands and procleim "well, i apparently can't use [insert OE component here]!" or "everything we've been working on for the past three years is illegal because of [insert minor rule technicality here]!"  Jay & co really arne't out to screw you, so take the time to find out if you're really boned before throwing in the towel.

*shrug* it's not a question of clarification...geez, i'm a lawyer.  the only reason i have a job is b/c things need clarification.  but it's weird how people automatically assume they are screwed even before they try to get any clarification.

Never thought I'd be quoting another series as an example, but this ain't rocket science.

Address the most common mods to the cans (since the CARB ones have no real vent to speak of) and is concise and to the point.  Even lists examples.

Regardless, I've got enough of an answer.  If the mods made to my jugs doesn't pass muster I'm sure I'll be told.  Still don't like the new curse rules. 

I think the cursing rules will keep people more in check with their builds, which IMO is good.  I'm sure it will result in the occasional surprise black flag, but odds are your teams wasn't too cool to someone or they wouldn't have votes.  Drive clean and don't be jerks.  Pretty simple.

Being that we hadn't invested in new fueling equipment yet, I like the new rules.  That said, the 5 gal jugs were a bit of a pain when it was hot out and I think there are safer solutions.  Still, the rule makes sense to just keep us all on a level field and doesn't require a 10 page addendum on "approved modifications".  I'm sure that makes Jay's life a bit easier for his insurance policy as well.  A ton of time can be gained/lost fueling, so it was inevitable that some team would eventually build a bomb on accident trying to pump 3gal/second.  Hell, F1 teams couldn't figure it out...

I don't really understand the hood one too well, but it's not a tough one to abide by.  I'm sure Jay and crew saw some hoods that prompted the change.

The rule changes seem pretty fair to us.

I have a question regarding the roll cage mounting plates.  We can only fit a 6" x 3" plate on the horizontal plane where the cage will mount.  Does the 24 sq. in rule have to be all on one plane or could it bend around the frame member and continue down the side.

I have sent off an email to Jay and Nick for clarification as this question keeps coming up in different formats.

For you fueling kibitzers I have asked for clarification on allowable jug mods, potential for rotary pumps and specifics of jug sizing.

Food for thought, if they decided to make an allowance for rotary pumps and y'all start picking that one apart they may just remove it so stop trying to get all sneaky on that junk    
My suggestion was hand operated pumps designed for the specific purpose of fuel transfer.  Absolutely no modifications to the pumps, no self built pumps.  Pump must be able to seal tightly to the fuel jug.

Be sure and understand, I have no authority or anything, that is just what I suggested to them and they may come back and tell us to pound sand so dont get to invested in the idea just yet.

And for info on the possibility of hand pumps for the fueling.  No, not gonna happen. 

You have yourselves to thank for that since it seems writing a clear concise rule to cover their addition and not get picked apart and loopholed to death is just not possible. 

The crew is getting overwhelmed with questions as you might imagine so I would suggest that if you have emailed about a question which is general in nature you let it be known here (and post the reply when received) so that folks wont hammer them with the same question.

If Jay scares you and you'd prefer I take it up with him then post your question here and let it be known that you havent directed it to Jay yet and I'll try to get some answers.