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Re: Themes that should NEVER be done?

Rockford Brodie wrote:

Also, if the Afro Engineered theme is that offensive, at the next race have them swap the 43 into a 34 and be Team Wendell Scott...

That 's Genius!

Had I read this thread before entering the race, I definetly would not have showed up with the Afro Engineered theme. Sorry for all the stink generated by it.  I now understand why the Lemons crew needs to keep a more "PC" image with all the coverage they receive. ...Lesson Learned.
    As I stated in another post, I've had a few of my Black Customers check out the car and theme, and they thought it was funny. My one Customer who IS African-American, and is as ghetto as can be, uses the "N-Word" more than anyone I've ever met and He Liked the theme. He also told me had it actually used the"N-Word", he Would have kicked my Ass on the spot. He's BIG, has a mile-long rap sheet, and  is menacing enough that I believe He would have. I love Keith. He cracks me up everytime he come's in my shop.
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sublimate wrote:

Has anyone done the John F. Kennedy presidential limo complete with simulated brains and a secret service agent hanging on to the back bumper?...

I thought about this exact same theme a few years ago.  I brought it up to the rest of the team, we all laughed (or maybe it was cringed), and then all agreed it may not be a good idea to even bring up to anyone again that we had even thought to do it.

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jbbugs wrote:

As I stated in another post, I've had a few of my Black Customers check out the car and theme, and they thought it was funny. My one Customer who IS African-American, and is as ghetto as can be, uses the "N-Word" more than anyone I've ever met and He Liked the theme. He also told me had it actually used the"N-Word", he Would have kicked my Ass on the spot. He's BIG, has a mile-long rap sheet, and  is menacing enough that I believe He would have. I love Keith. He cracks me up every time he come's in my shop.

Put that guy on your team and let him front for the team in tech/BS and it probably would have passed without any problems.

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Well, there's Red Rocket, so a Poo Choo Train would certainly be OK.

Speaking of religion (and following in the same direction), has there been a Super Best Friends team yet? Complete with a censored Mohammed and, of course, Sea Man.

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Team Yo'
Hats on backwards, size 50 pants, underwear showing
faux Railroad tracks, massively gaudy gold chains
sound system that rattles all the loose screws but is unintelligable.
Car's gotta be some 70's craptatious gold, purple or green metallic
Crown car scent hanging from mirror.

Am I missing anything?


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Re: Themes that should NEVER be done?

crazymike wrote:

Team Yo'
Hats on backwards, size 50 pants, underwear showing
faux Railroad tracks, massively gaudy gold chains
sound system that rattles all the loose screws but is unintelligable.
Car's gotta be some 70's craptatious gold, purple or green metallic
Crown car scent hanging from mirror.

Am I missing anything?


what could possibly go wrong?

Been done.  Most recently in my recollection by Skank Tank at CMP Fall '10

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There seems to be very little that hasn't been done.  smile

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Jer wrote:

There seems to be very little that hasn't been done.  smile

and alot that has been done very little. more themes need to be done well.

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Re: Themes that should NEVER be done?

mechimike wrote:
crazymike wrote:

Team Yo'
Hats on backwards, size 50 pants, underwear showing
faux Railroad tracks, massively gaudy gold chains
sound system that rattles all the loose screws but is unintelligable.
Car's gotta be some 70's craptatious gold, purple or green metallic
Crown car scent hanging from mirror.

Am I missing anything?


what could possibly go wrong?

Been done.  Most recently in my recollection by Skank Tank at CMP Fall '10

And it didn't offend anyone?  OMG!  Say it aint so!

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There are just as many white kids wearing backwards hats and listening to rap and all that as there are kids of other races doing so.  Such a theme is not racist, it's just making fun of the trends that dumb kids follow.  No more offensive than doing a 50's "greaser" themed car, or a 60's "hippie" themed car, or a 70's "disco" themed car, or an 80's "punk" themed car.  It's all been done... and it should be.

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And it didn't offend anyone?  OMG!  Say it aint so!

He wasn't wearing blackface and carrying a watermellon...

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Loren wrote:

There are just as many white kids wearing backwards hats and listening to rap and all that as there are kids of other races doing so.  Such a theme is not racist, it's just making fun of the trends that dumb kids follow.  No more offensive than doing a 50's "greaser" themed car, or a 60's "hippie" themed car, or a 70's "disco" themed car, or an 80's "punk" themed car.  It's all been done... and it should be.

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What, and a "Riceboy" theme wouldn't be offensive to Asians? smile

I guess you could always do a "Mexican/Spanish Riceboy" theme....

http://www.riceboypage.com/shame/hall_of_shame_11/crx_rear.jpg

But everything would have to be made from wood and/or sheet metal.


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No one ever expects....   The inquisition!

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No one ever expects....   The inquisition!

Dammit, that's about 3 themes in the future for me.  Someone alrady got the Amish, now this!

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Just get a 5 oh and go as Ice, Ice, baby......

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Loren wrote:

There are just as many white kids wearing backwards hats and listening to rap and all that as there are kids of other races doing so.  Such a theme is not racist, it's just making fun of the trends that dumb kids follow.  No more offensive than doing a 50's "greaser" themed car, or a 60's "hippie" themed car, or a 70's "disco" themed car, or an 80's "punk" themed car.  It's all been done... and it should be.

So you can poke fun of, but not offend a culture?  Lots would say the rice-boy thing is a culture.  Before we know it there will be no more comedians because there won't be any people left to make fun of that won't be offended.

I guess none of matters, because I doubt some team could come up with anything that would offend me.  I guess I really don't give a flying f*ck at a rolling donut about it.

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Sir Thomas Crapper wrote:
Evil Genius wrote:

No one ever expects....   The inquisition!

Dammit, that's about 3 themes in the future for me.  Someone alrady got the Amish, now this!

Here, just jump ahead to the inevitable:

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spanish inquisition theme requires a Seat, or at least something rebadged to be a Seat.

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VKZ24 wrote:

So you can poke fun of, but not offend a culture?  Lots would say the rice-boy thing is a culture.

There's a difference between a "culture" and a "trend".  Even though we speak of "car culture"... it's not the same as an ACTUAL culture.

I guess it's more okay to make fun of the stupid things that people do than to make fun of the people themselves.  To use the "Afro Engineered" theme as an example, they could go as far as they wanted to in actually showing some "afro-engineering" in the car itself (dangerous banned technology, anyone?), it was applying that name to it coupled with the costumes that targeted a specific group of people in a potentially offensive way.

Safest thing you can do with any theme is make fun of yourself.

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Re: Themes that should NEVER be done?

spanish inquisition theme requires a Seat, or at least something rebadged to be a Seat.

When I was in Spain, most of the Seats were rebadged VWs. Probably still true; too lazy to look it up.

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SEAT= spanish built VW.
Skoda = Czech built VW.
People's revolutionary glorious Krapwagen auto collective= china built VW.


Not totally sure about that last one.

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SEAT used to be Spanish built FIAT - think about that ride...

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So, would making fun of the French be off limits?

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So, would making fun of the French be off limits?

I toll youu, weevvv already got one,  and ittzz vrrrey nizzzze

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So, would making fun of the French be off limits?

If it was, then the entire race series would have been shit-canned.

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