Topic: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

I know this is VERY subjective and depends on the track and the car, but I'm just looking for ideas since we have some choices with gearing. Any info is appreciated.


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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

anywhere from 5 to 110

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

80something?  It's really hard to read a late 80s GM digital dashboard in bright sunlight, wearing mirrored aviators inside a racing helmet.

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

my spedometer always reads 90ish, so who knows...

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

you will find this varies greatly based on the track & the car driven & the nut behind the wheel

For example at Sears Pointless last year I don't think we ever got over 100mph...maybe 90's at best.....but at Thunderhill with a .4 mile front straight we could hit 110+mph.....which was among the fastest cars out there, in the 928 with 200whp......  In the Opel GT at 85whp it could barely get 90mph on the same straight....

A skilled driver who carries more speed in the corners will also see far more top speed on the straights too....

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

Silly answer - Our car (a rusty Neon) tops out well below 100 mph, but we don't have a speedo to confirm that.  The fastest car I've driven tops out well over 100 mph, but I was too busy spinning out to confirm that either.

Serious answer - The E30s and maybe some of the American Muscle (like the Lincoln mark 8), I'm guessing, get up to 110+.  Front wheel drive Lemons cars tend to top out at about 100 mph.  But your ride doesn't really matter - the question is, how fast is your skill?  Can you threshold brake?  How quickly can you manage that reducing radius turn?

The guys with the Operation E30?  Their skill is 100 mph plus.  My skill?  Barely adequate for 30 mph, especially when it's dark.  (Well, okay, I'm exaggerating.  But you get the point.)

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

over 100, but who's counting?

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220, 221, whatever it takes!

Seriously, never really cared. Its the racing not the speed for me!

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

Spinnetti wrote:

220, 221, whatever it takes!

I got that!

I think our GTP reached around 90-100 on the straights at CMP.

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

PunisherBass wrote:
Spinnetti wrote:

220, 221, whatever it takes!

I got that!

So did I.  I say that around the house every once in awhile and my wife just looks at me like I'm weird.

Wartburg speedo was in KPH and bounced around like a toddler on crack so we yanked it and put a tach in its place.  No idea how fast it could go.

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12 (edited by EyeMWing 2011-02-21 06:21 PM)

Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

105. Maybe 110 in our FWD American forced induction yacht at Summit Point. If we had some more straightaway there's another 1 or 2 thousand RPM in there, too. On CMP's shorter front straight we were in the 70-80-90 bracket depending on traffic levels at the braking zone and the individual driver.

What you should be asking is "what kinds of speeds are people seeing through the turns" - in which case 35, 40 and panic stop seem to be the most common choices of other drivers.

This means that being fast comes with a serious penalty - you're basically running your brakes and engine through a continuous-duty 30-100-30-100-0-100  type torture test - along with your drivers.

Yes, it's truly an awesome feeling to look down a straightaway, pick a car a third of the way down it and then blow the doors off of it - up until you realize that the car in question was a 3-cylinder Metro, anyway. The question you have to ask yourself is this: "Is it worth it?" It's hard as hell to make up lost laps - but you'll lose them at an astonishing rate the moment you stop to refuel, change a gasket, change a driver, or replace your busted-ass brakes. The trick is to lose fewer laps than anybody else.

Being QUICK - that is, keeping up with the 75th percentile or so helps a lot. Anything beyond that really doesn't help matters all that much. (Hm, maybe I should bust out Excel some time and get some precise figures for this - laptime percentile versus overall finishing position)

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

Our little 4 Banger 88 Mustang got to the P in MPH -

That's well past the mark of 85.  I only looked at it once.  Kinda neat to see that, considering the rest of the time I drove with my eyes shut...

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

PunisherBass wrote:
Spinnetti wrote:

220, 221, whatever it takes!

I got that!

I think our GTP reached around 90-100 on the straights at CMP.

I was just surprised I was first out with it! smile

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

Glad to see we're not the only ones who are unable to answer this question due to 'technical difficulties'....

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

Thanks for the comments. I've raced one race, and we went just over 100, but that was on a long straight at Buttonwillow that we only ran the course that way on Sat. We have a choice of gearing in the car we're considering and I was just curious what other tracks and cars were like. My question was as much about possible top end rpm as it was about actual top speed, which can also have something to do with reliability. We wound that car out pretty tight at Buttonwillow and the motor may not be the same again.

Of course, this car might not run as well and so the whole question could be moot..........

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

I radar'd Thunder hill late Sunday, fastest I saw that late in the game was 117, average fast was 103-113, slow was 79-84...

Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

Fastest we have seen is about 135-140 at PBIR while CMP(Kershaw) is about 90-95.

19 (edited by Team Infinniti 2011-02-22 06:03 AM)

Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

135/140? holy umm.. wow. What were you driving?

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

None of our dash instruments worked so we don't know speeds, but we've always wondered. We don't have the size of team needed to reliably count laps for each driver either so I was looking for a cheap system to give us laps/speed info. I couldn't find one that cost less than $800 used. There's no way I'm dropping that amount of money just to satisfy my curiosity!

So, I got a cheap assed pocket PC phone thing with built-in GPS from Ebay, loaded Chronos lap timing software on it and strapped it to the dash.  I got it primarily to count laps, but disocvered it tracks Vmax too. Bonus!   It works on GPS and it doesn't need a Sim card for that so no running costs, just charge it up and go. 50 bucks all in for an in-car GPS timimg system.....result!

MSR will be the first time we get to use it in anger so I guess we'll see how well it works there.....I'll report back on how it all goes at a later date.

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

135-140 is definitely cheater territory.

Almost sounds like Pratt & miller, but I think they were even faster.

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

I think anybody with more than 4 cylinders should have to run their air intake through a sippy straw. just my 2 cents haha

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

gsmith2424 wrote:

Fastest we have seen is about 135-140 at PBIR while CMP(Kershaw) is about 90-95.

Arent you guys driving the mercedes? that thing took off like a f-18 coming out of the corners.......

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Re: What kind of top speeds are people seeing on the track?

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