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How about four 2-barrels?
So tasty!! 
KT
MurileeMartin wrote:ronman wrote:Weber 4-barrel?!?!?!
How about four 2-barrels?
Yeah, that's less than $500...
You could get four random two-barrels out of junked 70s Japanese cars and fabricate an intake out of galvanized plumbing fittings (bonus points if you use four different carbs). Do that and you'll be instant Legends Of Lemons!
Evil Genius wrote:MurileeMartin wrote:How about four 2-barrels?
Yeah, that's less than $500...
You could get four random two-barrels out of junked 70s Japanese cars and fabricate an intake out of galvanized plumbing fittings (bonus points if you use four different carbs). Do that and you'll be instant Legends Of Lemons!
Hmm might as well use different length velocity stacks matched to the size of the carb to "tune" the powerband....with pricely matched unequal length "tuned" headers too....
I witnessed 196hp today on the dyno...Best to leave it alone!!
KT
I'm glad you got your 928 running again. Rest assured that you are not alone in battling complex german electrical/ecu systems. Our german vehicle has been acting up ever since we purhcased the piece of junk. Sometimes it just randomly runs great and sometimes it won't even start. To help you understand what we're up against here is a picture of just SOME of the ECUs we removed prior to welding the cage:
Yes, all those ECUs came from one car... and there were still five more to be removed after that picture was taken.
We've left the stereo in our car and by playing lots of Wagner we hope to appease the German gods enought to allow our car to actually run the whole race.
Best of luck to the highly depreciated german cars! Hopefully the judges will appreciate the difficulty and unique challenges of running our cars and not be blinded by the outrageous original MSRP.
I can't wait until a VW Phaeton hits Lemons prices. at the rate they're going for in the states it shouldn't be much more than another 5 years give or take. That should top them all for german electronics complexity, and pretty much guaranteed to have an electrical issue being a VW.
on the Weber note, I think it would be AWESOME to cut a hole in the hood of the 928 just to have 8 tall downdraft stacks peeking out!
That should top them all for german electronics complexity, and pretty much guaranteed to have an electrical issue being a VW.
Hey... at least a more recent car has OBII so you can check codes etc with a cheap generic code reader. Unfortunately our car has the manufacturer's own pre - '96 wanna be OBII system that uses all factory proprietary shit and a code scanner alone is thousands of dollars. Obviously we don't have one... ugh...
I'll start looking for the carbs... I'm thinking 4 different carbs from 4 different manufacturers: Kehin, Hitachi, Asian Weber and Mitsubishi all sitting on a big polished plenum... very sweet.
We should compare MSRPs and then the value of the dollar in that year and see who has the more expensive car. Our 928 w/auto sold for about $46000.00 in 1984 dollars.. Your car was what: $75000.00 in 1995 dollars?
Now worth $500 in 2009 dollars, that's some devaluation!
I'll start looking for the carbs... I'm thinking 4 different carbs from 4 different manufacturers: Kehin, Hitachi, Asian Weber and Mitsubishi all sitting on a big polished plenum... very sweet.
Just get 8 Mikuni 38mm single-port carbs off old 100cc yamaha 2-cycle karting motors, that would just be sweeeeeet.
Your car was what: $75000.00 in 1995 dollars?
Now worth $500 in 2009 dollars, that's some devaluation!
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No kidding... especially since $75K is not quite an accurate estimate... cough cough... I'll bring info on the MSRP to the race
Evil Genius wrote:Your car was what: $75000.00 in 1995 dollars?
Now worth $500 in 2009 dollars, that's some devaluation!
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No kidding... especially since $75K is not quite an accurate estimate... cough cough... I'll bring info on the MSRP to the race
Damm that bunch of ECU's is SCARY......since the 84 is a fairly "simple" (famous last words huh) Bosch L jet with only 1 main ECU and about a million relays-fuses-sensors all wired through a 150K+ mileage 25 year old harness that is rotted and failing......okay maybe its not that simple afterall :>(
Hmm a 1995 $75k car....BMW 7 series maybe? something with the V8.....that will have plenty of HP....more than us anyway :>( If you are TRUELY INSANE...you'l bring a 750iL....that 296hp V12 would be so cool to see run a few laps before it brakes a alternator belt that costs $500....or the timing belt thats $2500....still I'd love to see one out there
If you are TRUELY INSANE...you'l bring a 750iL....that 296hp V12 would be so cool to see run a few laps before it brakes a alternator belt that costs $500....or the timing belt thats $2500....still I'd love to see one out there
We've had a 750iL, for a very brief period at Nelson Ledges. It wasn't ready to race until 8 hours in, and then it bashed its side into a Neon (or got T-boned, depending on whose story you believe). As for prices/depreciation of once-valuable Lemons cars, by using the Standard Catalog and the CPI Inflation Calculator, I come up with these numbers:
1989 BMW 750iL: Original price, $70,000. Price in 2009 bucks, $121,918
1991 Jaguar XJS: Original price, $53,000. Price in 2009 bucks, $84,040
1984 Porsche 928S: Original price, $44,000. Price in 2009 bucks, $91,459
1961 Cadillac Fleetwood: Original price, $6,233. Price in 2009 bucks, $45,021
Looks like the BMW wins!
icemang17 wrote:If you are TRUELY INSANE...you'l bring a 750iL....that 296hp V12 would be so cool to see run a few laps before it brakes a alternator belt that costs $500....or the timing belt thats $2500....still I'd love to see one out there
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We've had a 750iL, for a very brief period at Nelson Ledges. It wasn't ready to race until 8 hours in, and then it bashed its side into a Neon (or got T-boned, depending on whose story you believe). As for prices/depreciation of once-valuable Lemons cars, by using the Standard Catalog and the CPI Inflation Calculator, I come up with these numbers:
1989 BMW 750iL: Original price, $70,000. Price in 2009 bucks, $121,918
1991 Jaguar XJS: Original price, $53,000. Price in 2009 bucks, $84,040
1984 Porsche 928S: Original price, $44,000. Price in 2009 bucks, $91,459
1961 Cadillac Fleetwood: Original price, $6,233. Price in 2009 bucks, $45,021Looks like the BMW wins!
Too cool.....so were the "high" car for Arse freeze...so far anyway....nice...at least I can say "we won the most depreciated contest" after the car grenades....
So how did the 928 make out?
Sorry Icemang- The Merc wins going away. MSRP $130k ish in 1995 dollars would be $184k in 2009 dollars.
So the S600 is now worth a rounding error's length of ZERO.
So how did the 928 make out?
Better than its drivers.
Which is to say, not very well in either case.
Spun rod, or some such insanely complicated seven-weeks-of-bloody-knuckles type fix.
Yep, spun a rod, but the car ran well (other than a bunch of penalties) up til then.
It'll be back for Pointless.
I like your rims and tires. If you give up on the 928, I can use them on my 924.
Old Fast Auto Race Team
I like your rims and tires. If you give up on the 928, I can use them on my 924.
Old Fast Auto Race Team
Yup classic 7x16 "manhole" covers.....but it gets the job done!!! You guys looked great out there....and finished high too (if I remember correctly)
Yes the 928 died with about 3 hours left on Sunday....which isn't too bad really...we made 195 laps and were up to 22nd when the motor went buh-bye......still good enough for 71st place overall.......
The 3 penalties are what cost us BIG TIME.....I was quite proud of my zero penalty two hour stint to finish the day on Saturday....
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