Topic: 3 Potential Lemons

While looking through the list of cars at the auction, spotted 3 cars that I think would be good. 1 Late 80's Escort, 2 early mid 90's Saturn SC2 and 80' Volvo 240 gas and dsl. in past races which has faired the best to last on the abuse. leaning twards the Vovlo just because its grandpa brown and looks easier to mount a roll cage in with a more open cockpit.

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Well I can tell you that Saturns have the best record when it comes to reliability in Lemons, and at CMP a few months ago an SC2 laid down the fastest lap time of the entire race.

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But the judges will absolutly like the escort better.

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Being new planing until June I have time to think about it. The Sc2 has a good parts selection around as well as the escort. Vovlo no so mutch.

5 (edited by EriktheAwful 2010-11-10 04:13 AM)

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Buy the SC2 and the Escort. Graft the Escort body parts onto the SC2 and the judges will never know! I guarantee it will work!

Personally, I'd go with the Vovlo diesel just because.

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It's funny that Saturn keeps getting touted as reliable.

One Saturn team at gingerman blew 4 motors in a weekend.
One Saturn team at autobahn coated the track in oil when there motor let go.

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Just wish that there was a way to find a Cosworth Escort. Or atleast find some one with a Cosworth drive train. Leaning twards the Escort or Volvo right now though. Gonna do some digging on the avalibility of a roll cage for either one that will pass Tech. Just never liked the look of the Saturn. 80's Escorts had a good balance and drive train and the Volvo is just a mile of metal.

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Volvo 240 series parts are readily available new & used, have been successfully campaigned for years in "real" racing, as well as Lemons.  Junkyard scrounging can turn up stuff like big sway bars, oil coolers, different rear axle ratios, etc.

Most importantly, the "safe car" aspect is reassuring with all of us idiots on track! tongue

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rpone605 wrote:

It's funny that Saturn keeps getting touted as reliable.

One Saturn team at gingerman blew 4 motors in a weekend.
One Saturn team at autobahn coated the track in oil when there motor let go.

Murilee actually ran the numbers some time ago and Saturn's came in at #1.

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All I know is that I am never ever goining to get a Honda/Acura with the Head Gaskets going or any BMW, just cause i don't like em.

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Dice1 wrote:

I am never ever going to get a Honda/Acura with the Head Gaskets going or any BMW, just cause i don't like em.

We've never met, and I already like you.

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Hahahahaaa nice. Maby when I finish either the 69 or 85 Charger's ill drivem to a race for more points. Ain't gonna race em but might bring em.

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I can't belive I'm syaing this. I have to go look at vw Scirocco tonight. Its a scirocco damn it. I thought I would never say that.

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PunisherBass wrote:

Murilee actually ran the numbers some time ago and Saturn's came in at #1.

Actually, the Saturn SL/SC was third. Volvo 240 and Alfa Milano were 1st and 2nd.

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My memory fails me then, must be a side effect from driving a Buick in my mid 20's.

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There are a ton of volvo shops out there. 
http://www.kaplhenke.com/index.php 
This guy races a 245 wagon and is located in MD makes a lot of performance volvo parts
Builds cages too

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PunisherBass wrote:

My memory fails me then, must be a side effect from driving a Buick in my mid 20's.

A "speed up, granddad!" dark red Buick at that.

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EyeMWing wrote:
PunisherBass wrote:

My memory fails me then, must be a side effect from driving a Buick in my mid 20's.

A "speed up, granddad!" dark red Buick at that.

Grandpa's don't drive the supercharged versions.

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There's also the "Alex's Lemonade Stand" volvo team out of West Chester.  Another local team for you.

BTW, We're probably getting together to work on the bird on the 20th.  The car's in Fleetwood (Berks County), if you're interested in stopping by.

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What year Tbird. Buddy has one that won't start. I'm sure its either the cam or crank sensor for get which one send the tach signal to fire the motor over. But he is short on cash and probly sell it.

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88 Turbo Coupe

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Think his is in the ealry 90's gotta check. I was gonna buy it for my personal beater but if I bring another project home let's say it would over flow the trash can.

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Well his bird is a 95 3.8 want $350 but needs the starter back. I can probly get up their and just pull it out one day beforehand if interested.