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Re: Over-aggresiveness and losing it all

No hate coming from me...  I was bummed to see it happen.  My first response was "NOOOO!!" cuz I knew they were in the lead.  Like I said up above, the POS guy I talked to was super cool.  Just hated to see them lose the lead that way.

Props to POS for being up front, for sure.

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As for costing your team the podium, allow me to quote the Great and Mighty Pendejo, "Winning Lemons is like cleaning your toilet twice in one day and bragging about it."

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Re: Over-aggresiveness and losing it all

Judge Jonny wrote:

As for costing your team the podium, allow me to quote the Great and Mighty Pendejo, "Winning Lemons is like cleaning your toilet twice in one day and bragging about it."

More like being able to clog the world's largest toilet.  It takes alot of fiber

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The penalty should have been to eat Jay's sandwich.  What the hell was that, SPAM?

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That's like the shortest penalty box to track entrance route I've ever seen in Lemons

And as somebody who's felt the Wrath of Jay™ (the one that he usually reserves for when he kicks a team out) for spilling fuel on the asphalt at Thunderhill... it's not fun and it wasn't worth the *maybe* 10 extra seconds it would have saved by thinking what I was doing and doing it right.

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Judge Jonny wrote:

As for costing your team the podium, allow me to quote the Great and Mighty Pendejo, "Winning Lemons is like cleaning your toilet twice in one day and bragging about it."

Y'know Jonny, I've seen you and some others say this before, and I wholeheartedly disagree. Maybe my life is paltry and I don't get to drive Audi R8s around canyon roads for a living like others here, but if I won a Lemons race, I'd be ecstatic and as proud as a newborn father.

I guess it may be a drop in the bucket for some of the guys who run teams in other "professional" series. But for n00bs like us who put our car together in a home garage with a Sawzall, Harbor Freight tools, a lot of beer, and have only a couple of track days under our belts, doing well is a big thing! We were very happy with our last top 10 finish. Perhaps I don't have enough hubris for motorsports smile

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LTDScott wrote:
Judge Jonny wrote:

As for costing your team the podium, allow me to quote the Great and Mighty Pendejo, "Winning Lemons is like cleaning your toilet twice in one day and bragging about it."

Y'know Jonny, I've seen you and some others say this before, and I wholeheartedly disagree. Maybe my life is paltry and I don't get to drive Audi R8s around canyon roads for a living like others here, but if I won a Lemons race, I'd be ecstatic and as proud as a newborn father.

I guess it may be a drop in the bucket for some of the guys who run teams in other "professional" series. But for n00bs like us who put our car together in a home garage with a Sawzall, Harbor Freight tools, a lot of beer, and have only a couple of track days under our belts, doing well is a big thing! We were very happy with our last top 10 finish. Perhaps I don't have enough hubris for motorsports smile

Well said...very good points......

Keep in mind....the Mighty Pendejo hasn't WON Lemons....so how does he really know?

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icemang17 wrote:
LTDScott wrote:
Judge Jonny wrote:

As for costing your team the podium, allow me to quote the Great and Mighty Pendejo, "Winning Lemons is like cleaning your toilet twice in one day and bragging about it."

Y'know Jonny, I've seen you and some others say this before, and I wholeheartedly disagree. Maybe my life is paltry and I don't get to drive Audi R8s around canyon roads for a living like others here, but if I won a Lemons race, I'd be ecstatic and as proud as a newborn father.

I guess it may be a drop in the bucket for some of the guys who run teams in other "professional" series. But for n00bs like us who put our car together in a home garage with a Sawzall, Harbor Freight tools, a lot of beer, and have only a couple of track days under our belts, doing well is a big thing! We were very happy with our last top 10 finish. Perhaps I don't have enough hubris for motorsports smile

Well said...very good points......

Keep in mind....the Mighty Pendejo hasn't WON Lemons....so how does he really know?

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Re: Over-aggresiveness and losing it all

By the way, my apologies to whoever was driving the POS E30 at the end of the race. We had no idea who the overall winner was when we headed to the Santa Claus Lump Of Coal Disbursement Center, so I asked the Eyesore driver, the Krider driver... and (having totally spaced on the whole run-over-Jay's-mom incident a few hours earlier) the F'ed Up POS driver. As soon as the words "Were you the winner?" came out of my mouth, I felt like I'd jabbed a red-hot poker into the dude's eyeball. Normally, I like making racers sad, but not when we're congratulating them for keeping their heaps running all the way the end of the weekend. Sorry!

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icemang17 wrote:
LTDScott wrote:
Judge Jonny wrote:

As for costing your team the podium, allow me to quote the Great and Mighty Pendejo, "Winning Lemons is like cleaning your toilet twice in one day and bragging about it."

Y'know Jonny, I've seen you and some others say this before, and I wholeheartedly disagree. Maybe my life is paltry and I don't get to drive Audi R8s around canyon roads for a living like others here, but if I won a Lemons race, I'd be ecstatic and as proud as a newborn father.

I guess it may be a drop in the bucket for some of the guys who run teams in other "professional" series. But for n00bs like us who put our car together in a home garage with a Sawzall, Harbor Freight tools, a lot of beer, and have only a couple of track days under our belts, doing well is a big thing! We were very happy with our last top 10 finish. Perhaps I don't have enough hubris for motorsports smile

Well said...very good points......

Keep in mind....the Mighty Pendejo hasn't WON Lemons....so how does he really know?

Let me just say, it's a big deal to win a Lemons race! When you win one you'll feel it too. My wife couldn't pull me off the ceiling for a week. My teammates felt the same way.

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We'd LOVE to win a race.  Right now, though, our eyes are on a bigger prize---the IOE.

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icemang17 wrote:

You shoulda at least taken a bite of Jay's sandwich.....

It looked good... Should of tried to take it from his hands and broke the ice. He loves that kind of thing.

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sergio wrote:

Let me just say, it's a big deal to win a Lemons race! When you win one you'll feel it too. My wife couldn't pull me off the ceiling for a week. My teammates felt the same way.

This is exactly my point! Jonny, E30 blah blah yackety schmackety or not, I think it's a hell of an accomplishment to make a $500 beater outrun and outlast a field of 100-150 others over 14+ hours. Most people would not even drive our POS cars let alone race them. It takes quite a bit of hard work, preparation, strategy, and luck to come out on top, not just a fat wallet as is the case with many other race series.

While IoE captures the spirit of the event and rightly has the bigger payout, I think any team that gets the overall win has the right to be very proud of themselves.

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LTDScott wrote:
sergio wrote:

Let me just say, it's a big deal to win a Lemons race! When you win one you'll feel it too. My wife couldn't pull me off the ceiling for a week. My teammates felt the same way.

This is exactly my point! Jonny, E30 blah blah yackety schmackety or not, I think it's a hell of an accomplishment to make a $500 beater outrun and outlast a field of 100-150 others over 14+ hours. Most people would not even drive our POS cars let alone race them. It takes quite a bit of hard work, preparation, strategy, and luck to come out on top, not just a fat wallet as is the case with many other race series.

While IoE captures the spirit of the event and rightly has the bigger payout, I think any team that gets the overall win has the right to be very proud of themselves.

This bring up a point... can/has any one won IOE and OVERALL in the same race?!

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Good question. I know they break down the good/bad/ugly categories and the overall winner doesn't get a "double win" by winning their own category as well.

But if something French or pre-1970 wins the overall race, I wouldn't be surprised if they win both prizes.

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Judge Jonny wrote:

Do it in a Skoda and we'll talk.

Oooh...Skoda hadn't crossed my mind.  That might be just as great as Yugo, minus the hand warming surface.

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LTDScott wrote:
sergio wrote:

Let me just say, it's a big deal to win a Lemons race! When you win one you'll feel it too. My wife couldn't pull me off the ceiling for a week. My teammates felt the same way.

This is exactly my point! Jonny, E30 blah blah yackety schmackety or not, I think it's a hell of an accomplishment to make a $500 beater outrun and outlast a field of 100-150 others over 14+ hours. Most people would not even drive our POS cars let alone race them. It takes quite a bit of hard work, preparation, strategy, and luck to come out on top, not just a fat wallet as is the case with many other race series.

While IoE captures the spirit of the event and rightly has the bigger payout, I think any team that gets the overall win has the right to be very proud of themselves.

Again, I think anyone that cleans their toilet twice in one day has the right to be proud.

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Judge Jonny wrote:
LTDScott wrote:
sergio wrote:

Let me just say, it's a big deal to win a Lemons race! When you win one you'll feel it too. My wife couldn't pull me off the ceiling for a week. My teammates felt the same way.

This is exactly my point! Jonny, E30 blah blah yackety schmackety or not, I think it's a hell of an accomplishment to make a $500 beater outrun and outlast a field of 100-150 others over 14+ hours. Most people would not even drive our POS cars let alone race them. It takes quite a bit of hard work, preparation, strategy, and luck to come out on top, not just a fat wallet as is the case with many other race series.

While IoE captures the spirit of the event and rightly has the bigger payout, I think any team that gets the overall win has the right to be very proud of themselves.

Again, I think anyone that cleans their toilet twice in one day has the right to be proud.

Have YOU ever cleaned your toilet twice in one day?

Only right before you come over and right after you leave.

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Judge Jonny wrote:

Again, I think anyone that cleans their toilet twice in one day has the right to be proud.

No, but I have been proud of what necessitated cleaning of said toilet.

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LTDScott wrote:

Good question. I know they break down the good/bad/ugly categories and the overall winner doesn't get a "double win" by winning their own category as well.

But if something French or pre-1970 wins the overall race, I wouldn't be surprised if they win both prizes.

If/when that happens, I would imagine that they would just shut the whole series down and walk away. Game. Over.

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But if something French or pre-1970 wins the overall race, I wouldn't be surprised if they win both prizes.

Hey, we're pretty happy that we're 3/3 at simply *finishing* races smile.

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Hey, we're pretty happy that we're 3/3 at simply *finishing* races smile.

+1

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We're kind've 4/5, as long as you don't take into consideration being down half the time, or the Caddy COASTING past the checkered with the engine dead...

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Solracer wrote:
LTDScott wrote:

But if something French or pre-1970 wins the overall race, I wouldn't be surprised if they win both prizes.

Hey, we're pretty happy that we're 3/3 at simply *finishing* races smile.

Damn right!

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icemang17 wrote:
LTDScott wrote:

Y'know Jonny, I've seen you and some others say this before, and I wholeheartedly disagree. Maybe my life is paltry and I don't get to drive Audi R8s around canyon roads for a living like others here, but if I won a Lemons race, I'd be ecstatic and as proud as a newborn father.

I guess it may be a drop in the bucket for some of the guys who run teams in other "professional" series. But for n00bs like us who put our car together in a home garage with a Sawzall, Harbor Freight tools, a lot of beer, and have only a couple of track days under our belts, doing well is a big thing! We were very happy with our last top 10 finish. Perhaps I don't have enough hubris for motorsports smile

Well said...very good points......

Keep in mind....the Mighty Pendejo hasn't WON Lemons....so how does he really know?

Let me just say, it's a big deal to win a Lemons race! When you win one you'll feel it too. My wife couldn't pull me off the ceiling for a week. My teammates felt the same way.

Seriously, and you don't even have to win. I showed the crappy little mirror trophy we got at Yee-haw (for constantly being in the way) to EVERYONE.

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