Topic: Speaking of rain..
I think I know the answer but would a harder/ narrower tire be better for rain? 400 treadwear and narrow vs. wider 200?
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I think I know the answer but would a harder/ narrower tire be better for rain? 400 treadwear and narrow vs. wider 200?
standing water or just wet surface?
I think I know the answer but would a harder/ narrower tire be better for rain? 400 treadwear and narrow vs. wider 200?
Run the widest tire you can find. Shave it to 3/32" tread and run 36 PSI.
Or were you asking what would be best for your team not what would be best for our team...
i'm thinking temperature might play in here also.
I think I know the answer but would a harder/ narrower tire be better for rain? 400 treadwear and narrow vs. wider 200?
In standing water, think water ski vs. wake board. Which one is easier to "plane" with a given weight? A wider contact patch will make the tire hydroplane faster. On just a wet surface, wider is better.
Depends... Whole race under rain? highly unlikely... I've got "steamrollers" on my Audi, and there is not a lick of hydroplaning at high speed, even in a downpour. This is Lemons, not F1. Run what ya brung and drive the tires to the limit of the current environmental conditions. I optimize for dry, and take what comes - even with my "real" race car (relative to the rest of the pack, I'm actually faster in the wet than the dry)
Pretend you're the Stig. He can drive in any conditions, and we should, too.
For wet pavement you want the same kind of tire as dry pavement. The tread compound has an effect on wet traction, but it is not related to treadwear. In standing water you want a rounder longer contact patch. That means a more narrow tire at a higher pressure.
You can buy a rain specific tire that has a tread shape to help water evacuation and a tread compound made for wet conditions. If you want to minimize problems with hydroplaning you can run on the high side for pressure. You will loose some grip on the wet pavement, but you will have a better chance of keeping the tires on the pavement in deep water.
Combine wet weather with cold (like CMP this weekend) and you run into additional problems. Performance tires with sticky treads have a high glass transition temperature. The tread compound will have low grip at low temperatures. Sticky tires do relate strongly to tread life. Higher treadwear tires tend to be optimized for all season performance and have better cold temp performance.
Those dudes with the Audi 4000 are going to run away with the race!
Today we were seriously considering caging the '96 Continental that I picked up for $500 on CL. Bad front right air strut, though, and it wouldn't be as fast as the Mark despite having the same motor (no time to gut/prep it). Plus, I wanted to make it my DD. Still, it would have more traction on a slick track, and heat, not to mention A WINDSHIELD.
Drive it well enough and you still can use it as a DD... afterall, Jay is DDing Pendejo's S600, right?
All he needs is some dealer plates to DD it, right? Gotta be a dealer on some NorCal team that can loan him a set...
Thanks! I think.
Those dudes with the Audi 4000 are going to run away with the race!
That's my old car (the Quattro Libre). Now we're driving an unreliable rear wheel drive Italian sedan that lacks grip on DRY pavement (but I wouldn't trade her for anything else)! Taylor B. got the deal of the century when we sold him the Libre. Curses!
I have no roof!
I have no roof!
1/4 inch plywood and some zip ties will fix that....
I have no roof!
Flip it over, empty it out.
MurileeMartin wrote:Those dudes with the Audi 4000 are going to run away with the race!
That's my old car (the Quattro Libre). Now we're driving an unreliable rear wheel drive Italian sedan that lacks grip on DRY pavement (but I wouldn't trade her for anything else)! Taylor B. got the deal of the century when we sold him the Libre. Curses!
Yeah, that's our old car now, too. Taylor was too lazy to fix the tranny on the Libre, so we're bringing a (hopefully) reliable rear wheel drive Swedish sedan. If we do get rain, I'll wish we had the Libre. She needs a lot of love, but she'll totally be back this season.
I have no roof!
join the club! drive faster, stay dry.
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