TheEngineer wrote:Spank, I think you're awesome. But please do not advocate skimping on brakes.
Thanks for the compliment. Right back at you.
Please don't take my anecdote(s) as advocacy for skimping on brakes. Easy to lose the message, here:
Spank wrote:By and large, though, even class C cars typically get high temp brake fluid and performance pads.
(that bit about no rear brakes, while true, is admittedly trolling. Sorry for my weakness)
Cheapo pads and DOT 3 CAN work. Just like a 4,496lb, 385hp 1967 Oldsmobile Toronado CAN circle a racetrack with 170 other cars using just factory front drum brakes. You of all people know how that situation was dealt with.
We're all being HIGHLY irresponsible and for putting everyone out there at risk for entering into a race series promoted as one for $500 crapcan cars, cars that by the original definition and originating premise is they are not suited for a racetrack. Hell, the image of more than 1 of my cars is used to promote the series yet those cars are not welcomed with open arms [anymore? ever?] and, may have even been pulled from a hot racetrack prior to a checkered flag in the interest of safety, yet was STILL promoted and used for promotion by giving it the series' self-proclaimed Highest Award which includes... GET THIS... a FREE ENTRY TO COME BACK! We can argue til the end of time about what the series is about, and that's not really the point.
One of my points is, don't blame my cars with stock brakes, brakes that are used every single friggin' day on the street in multiple locations throughout the world and have passed safety standards and manufacturing standards of multiple governing bodies, for endangering my life or the lives of the other participants in the event. Several factors determine how one should pilot a vehicle. One of those factors is how effective and efficient the braking system is for the stresses the car is under. Some people drive their motor's potential on a straightaway and attempt to upgrade the brakes to match so they don't go careening off track at the end of that straightaway. Some people upgrade their suspension to attempt to have their cornering speeds match the speeds their engine is capable of achieving in a straight line. Some people upgrade their motors to increase its reliability because they've found that when they drive the motor to its maximum speed potential the reliability is compromised. Some people upgrade their tires because what they've done to the motor, suspension, and braking is still making them fly off track due to lack of adhesion.
And some people just slow down.