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Re: Another Lemons class?

rb92673 wrote:

Nothing is wrong with making your own race within a race.  Make your own classes with your own trophies.

I think this has been done at least once. One team had a bunch of cars and brought a prize/trophy for the car that finished best in their group. There was a sub-2.0L class/race going around at one time.

I don't see them changing any time soon either, but I am okay with it,

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Re: Another Lemons class?

rb92673 wrote:

Nothing is wrong with making your own race within a race. Make your own classes with your own trophies.

I don't see Jay changing the A, B & C classing that has worked for over a decade.

100 Percent This. Last weekend, the Cordoba and the Bluesmobile had a friendly wager that went down to the wire. The Cordoba won by three laps, they finished 52nd and the Bluesmobile 53rd.

The Volkswagen Cup that the VW teams in the Midwest used to put together always came down to the last hour. There was also a T5 Trophy in the Midwest for a few years with a trophy made from broken T5 parts.

There was a Ford Four-Banger Trophy for a couple years when I was racing eons ago. The Alex's Lemonade Stand had an over/under 2.0L class with a donation to buy in.

Find the teams running a particular displacement, a model, a part, or from a particular region even. Throw them together and you suddenly have a couple of things to race for if you care enough to put in your effort.

If you want to set all that stuff yourself ahead of time, shoot me an email and I can help you get in contact with other teams running that car/make/whatever.

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Re: Another Lemons class?

therood wrote:
rb92673 wrote:

Nothing is wrong with making your own race within a race. Make your own classes with your own trophies.

I don't see Jay changing the A, B & C classing that has worked for over a decade.

100 Percent This. Last weekend, the Cordoba and the Bluesmobile had a friendly wager that went down to the wire. The Cordoba won by three laps, they finished 52nd and the Bluesmobile 53rd.

The Volkswagen Cup that the VW teams in the Midwest used to put together always came down to the last hour. There was also a T5 Trophy in the Midwest for a few years with a trophy made from broken T5 parts.

There was a Ford Four-Banger Trophy for a couple years when I was racing eons ago. The Alex's Lemonade Stand had an over/under 2.0L class with a donation to buy in.

Find the teams running a particular displacement, a model, a part, or from a particular region even. Throw them together and you suddenly have a couple of things to race for if you care enough to put in your effort.

If you want to set all that stuff yourself ahead of time, shoot me an email and I can help you get in contact with other teams running that car/make/whatever.

Besides, this is an excellent way to stick it to the man keeping us down and their fancy car classifications.  Rood did you ever think you would be 'the man'?

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29 Reply by SwarlesInCharge (edited by SwarlesInCharge 2022-06-16 02:03 AM)

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Re: Another Lemons class?

Guildenstern wrote:

I believe that's just Class C.

I think the loop hole is for a turbo one, and other cars are allowed in without Dukes. But not enough people are using this engineering marvel - I just wish I could have access to our Cutlass again.

Lemon_Newton-Metre wrote:

Duke & Diesel class

lol that'd be great.

rb92673 wrote:

Nothing is wrong with making your own race within a race.  Make your own classes with your own trophies.

I don't see Jay changing the A, B & C classing that has worked for over a decade.

True, I remember the Geo challenge or whatnot a few years back at Autobahn with the Jurassic Park one against one or two others. Good stuff.

-Robert, Party Sheep Racing
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Re: Another Lemons class?

SwarlesInCharge wrote:
MZAVARIN wrote:

Actually, I'd like to see a "Double Digit Horsepower" class in Lemons:
Bring whatever car you want with any engine in it, as long as the engine was rated at less than 100 HP out of the factory..

Iron Duke class. Everything is allowed, but has to be Duked up.

Miata? Sure.
E30? Sure.
C6 Vette? Sure.

Sorry, we have already started the Chrysler flathead class in the Midwest...you are not stealing our idea.

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Re: Another Lemons class?

Wait:  "Who's Zoomin' Who?"

In the Rules, there are 6 Classes (1.5 Winners and Prizes) listed, each of which comes with monetary value.

Notably, even 'Organizer's Choice' isn't listed as a Class; much less 'Heroic Fix' or 'I Got Screwed', followed by all the others... and these are recognized for years.

March 2012 at Sonoma, there was a Moper Cup listed on the Results page; I think all of these are merely

"Derivations on a Theme" ...

so I think your characterization of:

'stealing our idea'

is reminiscent of:

"Can't Touch This" ;-)

"Do You Know What I Mean?"

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  • Registered: 2013-06-07
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Re: Another Lemons class?

so maybe there should be an IOE class?

But in general, the best solution is:

Nothing is wrong with making your own race within a race.  Make your own classes with your own trophies.

I don't see Jay changing the A, B & C classing that has worked for over a decade.

Big Man Jay is probably just sayin"; if you don't like my freakin' classing system, trophies, prizes, then go make your own effin trophies, classes, and prizes...!!

So no reason not to just make my own class (KISS ?engine must have been manufactured at least 35 years ago in anything you want...), learn to weld and make some of the old fashioned trophies form the bins of car parts in my garage, and maybe have a sign in cost of $20 to make a prize....voila!

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Re: Another Lemons class?

There used to be a 4th class (X) and it was hugely unpopular.  It was for cars like the MetroGnome, Eyesore Miata, Model T GT, etc.  It lasted barely 1 year and got binned.

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Re: Another Lemons class?

SwarlesInCharge wrote:
Guildenstern wrote:

I believe that's just Class C.

I think the loop hole is for a turbo one, and other cars are allowed in without Dukes. But not enough people are using this engineering marvel - I just wish I could have access to our Cutlass again.

Maybe it's just living in the land of salt and rust, But Where the hell is anyone FINDING an Iron Duke anymore?

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35 Reply by SwarlesInCharge (edited by SwarlesInCharge 2022-06-18 10:16 AM)

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Re: Another Lemons class?

Guildenstern wrote:
SwarlesInCharge wrote:
Guildenstern wrote:

I believe that's just Class C.

I think the loop hole is for a turbo one, and other cars are allowed in without Dukes. But not enough people are using this engineering marvel - I just wish I could have access to our Cutlass again.

Maybe it's just living in the land of salt and rust, But Where the hell is anyone FINDING an Iron Duke anymore?

Eh, I think it has basically just become a meme at this point and was mostly in jest. But ours was in the original team captain's grandpa-hand-me-down HS beater. I'm sure the community could find a new king of the low hp engines. Maybe the LV7 from a Chevy Spark.

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Re: Another Lemons class?

SwarlesInCharge wrote:
Guildenstern wrote:
SwarlesInCharge wrote:

I think the loop hole is for a turbo one, and other cars are allowed in without Dukes. But not enough people are using this engineering marvel - I just wish I could have access to our Cutlass again.

Maybe it's just living in the land of salt and rust, But Where the hell is anyone FINDING an Iron Duke anymore?

Eh, I think it has basically just become a meme at this point and was mostly in jest. But ours was in the original team captain's grandpa-hand-me-down HS beater. I'm sure the community could find a new king of the low hp engines. Maybe the LV7 from a Chevy Spark.

WE in the Midwest are trying to Chrysler flathead 6 swap all things...especially 1990's pony cars.  We have not found a suitable Chrysler product to put one in yet (ironic) but will keep looking.

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Re: Another Lemons class?

We Slant 6ers are a pretty tight-knit group. Whenever we have two Slanted cars in the same race we have a friendly rivalry.

Escape Velocity and The Resistance have a trophy for the losers that gets passed back and forth. The loser has to take it home and weld some broken parts to it. It's pretty unwieldy at this point.

Off-Kilter Racing has been up against Escape Velocity in their turbo 64 Dart at Sebring and CMP so far. We are 1 and 1 now, so they challenged us to the same trophy idea going forward.

We keep hoping to have 3,4, or even 5 Slant 6 cars at the same event, but so far we've only been able to get two stars to align at a time...

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Re: Another Lemons class?

OnkelUdo wrote:

WE in the Midwest are trying to Chrysler flathead 6 swap all things...especially 1990's pony cars.  We have not found a suitable Chrysler product to put one in yet (ironic) but will keep looking.

I've got a '56 Mercedes in KY you can have. It's somewhat related to Chrysler... sort of... I was gonna put a 4 banger out of a Dodge Colt in it, but my '59 Studebaker Silver Hawk/Hemi scheme is gonna take precedence over that one.

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Re: Another Lemons class?

OnkelUdo wrote:
SwarlesInCharge wrote:
Guildenstern wrote:

Maybe it's just living in the land of salt and rust, But Where the hell is anyone FINDING an Iron Duke anymore?

Eh, I think it has basically just become a meme at this point and was mostly in jest. But ours was in the original team captain's grandpa-hand-me-down HS beater. I'm sure the community could find a new king of the low hp engines. Maybe the LV7 from a Chevy Spark.

WE in the Midwest are trying to Chrysler flathead 6 swap all things...especially 1990's pony cars.  We have not found a suitable Chrysler product to put one in yet (ironic) but will keep looking.

Prowler.

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