Topic: Safety and Performance...

We've begun building a car and had a question. When it's stating "Fire Suppression" systems in the vehicle, does that mean some kind of push button fire extinguisher? I'm new to race car building, and I'm not exactly sure what that entails. Or am I just thinking way too hard, and an accessible, up-to-code fire extinguisher mounted for driver access will be sufficient.

Also on the topic of safety, does a battery and OE charging system count as safety or will that eat into my $500?

Thanks!

1989 FORD ESCORT GT

Re: Safety and Performance...

Fire suppression requires a plumbed system with dispersal nozzles at the driver and engine fuel rail (mandatory) and fuel tank (optional).  This system can be push button or pull cable type to discharge the system.  You want enough nozzles to be effective, but not too many as to empty the system too quick.  You can find these complete systems for sale for most motorsports web sites, including the Lemons store on this site.  These systems have a two year life and re-certifying is a much better option than buying new.  I would recommend using a manufacturer that has certified dealer near you for recertification in the future.

A manual, point and squeeze type extinguisher does not comply with rules for in car.  You may have one in the car as a redundant system if you choose. 

You will need a hand held extinguisher for fueling and it is always good to have another one all the time in your paddock space.

Second question - I am under the opinion replacing OEM equipment with OEM spec is not included in the $500 budget.  Make sure you have a good battery hold down.  If you have one of the OEM standard bottom of the battery clamps, replace with a sturdy over the top metal strap/bracket.

1975 Chevy LUV.  1 Corinthians 13:7
1999 Chevy Blazer

Re: Safety and Performance...

don't point any nozzles at the fuel tank, point them at the driver (but not in their face). you'll never put out a tank full of fuel with 5lbs of suppressant.

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Re: Safety and Performance...

Huskar wrote:

Second question - I am under the opinion replacing OEM equipment with OEM spec is not included in the $500 budget.  Make sure you have a good battery hold down.  If you have one of the OEM standard bottom of the battery clamps, replace with a sturdy over the top metal strap/bracket.

The battery tie down is safety, the battery and alternator are not safety and not exempt. That being said, I've never dinged someone for a new battery or alternator.

1992 Saturn SL2 (retired) - Elmo's Revenge -  Class B winner, Heroic Fix winner x2
1969 Rover P6B 3500S(sold) - Super G-Rover - I.O.E Winner, Class C Winner
1996 Saturn SW2 - Elmo's Revenge (reborn!), Saturn SL1  Dazzleshipm Class C x2 and IOE winner
1974 AMC Javelin - Oscar's Trash heap - IOE,”Organizer's Choice" and "I got Screwed" award winner

Re: Safety and Performance...

derekste wrote:

don't point any nozzles at the fuel tank, point them at the driver (but not in their face). you'll never put out a tank full of fuel with 5lbs of suppressant.

All of this!

I can't tell you the number of cars I've seen with nozzles in the roof above the driver's head. How many fires have you seen starting on the roof of a car?  We have two nozzles under the hood pointed at the fuel rail area, and two inside pointed at the driver's waist area.

Captain
Team Super Westerfield Bros.
'93 Acura Integra - No VTEC Yo!

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Re: Safety and Performance...

I want to send this discussion here, for an 'on point' topic and a detailed, fulsome discussion:

Fire Suppression System installation - Best Practices?

Re: Safety and Performance...

we are in the currently building a new car, I looked into all different systems for the money, in the end the system on the Lemons store site is the best for the money and because they are selling it is a sure thing that it will pass tech. also I ordered it and it came next day which I thought was impressive.

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