Topic: Toolbox full of expansion foam penalty? (really?!)
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This was at a 24 hrs of Lemons race (Toledo last year). The driver got a penalty (I forget why?) and they said "bring tools, you are going to have a LOT of work to do on the car". He grabbed his BIG tool box full of everything and took it over where they then filled it with expanding foam. I heard about the incident via phone call (I didn't attend that event) and we're still picking foam off of his sockets and out of his tools. It was Lemons and it was a driver penalty (passing under yellow? Contact? I'm not sure, but it wasn't a MAJOR issue, just a dumb driver move)."
Let me start off by saying I'm a very big proponent on the no whining rule.
Lemons is about fun, and thats about it. Inevitably you'll probably get a black flag, and sent to the penalty box, where some sort of fun, or not fun penalty will result. However, as someone who normally brings about 10k in equipment/tools to every event, solely because they are on casters, and easily roll into my trailer, making any repairs I may need to do way faster, and normally is a huge help to my friends who have an open trailer and a half-empty 1/4'' SAE socket rail, I do have to inquire if this penalty is really within the spirit of Lemons.
To be put bluntly, if someone on my team or I passed under yellow (hey, it happens) , and was assigned this penalty, I would be genuinely pissed off, as some of us use our tools every single day as a source of income.
Now whining is what happens when someone says, "Thats gay, I think its stupid" and leaves it at that.
Here's my deal. Tools are EXPENSIVE!!! We all know this, except you people who buy everything at Harbor Frieght...anyways, could we come up with some alternative penalties?
Here are some of my ideas:
Toolbox is broughten, Lemons judges are equipped with 5-10 of the $4.95 plastic toolboxes you buy at Wal-Mart. Judge supervises and inspects toolbox (not re-arranging stuff, as again, this is people's source of income sometimes) and subsequently impounds every wrench/socket most critical to repair.
Lets say I bring a 240sx, everyone knows you can build these cars using a 10mm, 12, 14, and 17mm for the most part. Removal of these tools for say....4 Hours from your pit area if your car is damaged would be a slight hassle, but would also be greatly humiliating as you ask other teams to borrow a few sockets due to your inability to observe a yellow flag. In 4 hours you get your tools back that have been kept safely in a plastic labelled bin, you go home, and at 8am Monday you're back to work with no adverse effects from the super-fun Lemons race you and your friends invested way too much time/money in and life is back to normal, except you've got some funny stories you've acquired since you left work on Friday.
side note:!
If you're on this forum looking to get into Lemons, don't get a 240sx!! booorriiing!!!
Same with Miata-e30*-mustang-rx7!!
*okay with ranchero conversion.
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